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Old 08-22-2012, 17:50   #1
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GSSF Noob Alert :-)

I will be entering my first GSSF match this Saturday in Columbia... and bringing my stepdad along so he can give this whole thing a try too. :-)

I am a bit nervous, having never done anything remotely like this before. I'm not terribly concerned about the competition side of things - I am prepared to perform dismally LOL - I just want to challenge myself and have fun.

Any good advice for a first timer?
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Old 08-22-2012, 18:01   #2
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Relax, don't try to shoot too fast and have FUN! Don't be in a rush to be the first shooter on any stage. Stand back and watch a few guys shoot to see how things work. Don't be afraid to tell the RO's you are a newbie as most are very helpful. Helping paste targets can be educational also as you can see who the better shooters are and watch their technique. Not all "fast" shooters are "good" shooters.

Good luck and, what was that other thing? Oh yeah, HAVE FUN!!!

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Old 08-22-2012, 18:04   #3
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Hey, this will be my first time too, I'll be going Sunday. Maybe see ya there!

Everyone thanks for the tips, I'm looking forward to it!

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Hey, this will be my first time too, I'll be going Sunday. Maybe see ya there!
Cool! Good luck :-)
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No such thing as a dismal performance as long as you're having a good time. Follow the earlier advice; stand back and watch, ask questions and then tell the RO at each station that it's your first time. You'll really be pleased at all the folks who are more than ready to help. I'll be there Sunday. ENJOY.
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It's a rain or shine event, so be prepared. I suggest:

rain gear
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Old 08-22-2012, 19:28   #8
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I think we should get a "My First GSSF Match" Sticky up here...
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Hope to see you out there! My wife and I will be working the match on Saturday morning (Glock the Plates). We plan to shoot on Sunday.
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I will be entering my first GSSF match this Saturday in Columbia...

I am a bit nervous, having never done anything remotely like this before...

Any good advice for a first timer?
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Hey, this will be my first time too...

Everyone thanks for the tips, I'm looking forward to it!

Chris
May I ask you both... if there was a 20-30 minute New Shooter Workshop/Briefing that ran throughout the day, at this or other GSSF matches for new GSSF competitors, would you be inclined to attend?

The brief would include initial procedures, basic rules, and generally what to expect at the firing line - as well as suggestions for succesfully shooting each course of fire.

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It's a rain or shine event, so be prepared. I suggest:

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Plus, 150 rounds for each division you plan on shooting and a minimum of four magazines. (It gets really frustrating when shooters have to reload on the firing line.)

Don't be intimidated by all the fast shooters you see, chances are, they're not in your division. Relax (yeah right!) and shoot your OWN match. I think you'll have a lot of fun. Good luck to all.
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Plus, 150 rounds for each division you plan on shooting and a minimum of four magazines. (It gets really frustrating when shooters have to reload on the firing line.)

Don't be intimidated by all the fast shooters you see, chances are, they're not in your division. Relax (yeah right!) and shoot your OWN match. I think you'll have a lot of fun. Good luck to all.
Ask a fellow competitor to help reload magazines if you don't have 4 of them. Sometimes even an extra RO will help.

Reloading on the line really isn't a big deal, this is a sport where we bend a lot for first time shooters.
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May I ask you both... if there was a 20-30 minute New Shooter Workshop/Briefing that ran throughout the day, at this or other GSSF matches for new GSSF competitors, would you be inclined to attend?

The brief would include initial procedures, basic rules, and generally what to expect at the firing line - as well as suggestions for succesfully shooting each course of fire.

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GSSF use to have a tape video for new shooters. For some reason they quite doing it. Unless the host club has the setup to show the video only the host clubs that are 500 miles of Smyrna GA would ever see it.
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Back to the New Shooter briefing. Columbia will be my third match and I'm fairly comfortable now but a workshop as Sardg outlined would very likely have shortened the learning/comfort curve.
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GSSF use to have a tape video for new shooters. For some reason they quite doing it. Unless the host club has the setup to show the video only the host clubs that are 500 miles of Smyrna GA would ever see it.
I have heard that - and I think something needs to be done again. As noted in other GT posts, attendance has been record-breaking this year, and many of those increased numbers can be attributed to new shooters. Some 'basic training' could go a long way in adding to new shooter's understanding and enjoyment - and would likely also have the effect of speeding up play.

I've developed a PowerPoint for RO Training and am working on New Shooter Training and now bring my laptop and my video projector to every match I attend, just waiting for the OK to actually present one or both. I've presented RO Training one time; in Reevesville where the venue MD (Lisa Marie) asked that I present that RO Training.

Iím an NRA Instructor, a multiple-competition shooter, and of course a GSSF shooter and RO. I've identified a problem, I've developed a solution (actually two solutions - RO and New Shooter), I bring my own equipment to implement those solutions, and I await GSSF's approval to let it happen.
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What has GSSF said, if anything regarding either or both presentations? Would a nudge from other shooters help?
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:09   #18
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May I ask you both... if there was a 20-30 minute New Shooter Workshop/Briefing that ran throughout the day, at this or other GSSF matches for new GSSF competitors, would you be inclined to attend?

The brief would include initial procedures, basic rules, and generally what to expect at the firing line - as well as suggestions for succesfully shooting each course of fire.

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Oh yes, absolutely :-)
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Probably what would work even better is put it on You Tube.
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Probably what would work even better is put it on You Tube.
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Oh yes, absolutely :-)
Approval has been a slow process - so slow that (except for a constant push by me) it appears stagnant. As for RO Training, Scott Gilbertson has reviewed it, but has mentioned liability as an issue as I am not a Glock employee. Scotty Banks unoffically went along with it in Reeveville at the request of Lisa Marie - but still gave his spiel prior to mine. The New Shooter presentation is still a work in progress - and I continue to take photos for use within it - but could be completed at the first hint of an okay by GSSF.

If I gave the briefing, it would also free up GSSF personnel to check the range for all those last minute things that begin to stack up prior to 9AM - and throughout the day. Unfortunately, I am not available for every match, nationwide - but it would be a good start until GSSF can carry it further, nationally.

Whether you are a new GSSF shooter, or was once a new GSSF shooter who could have benefited from such a presentation, you may want to speak to your friendly GSSF rep(s) at the next match you attend. Every one of the GSSF folks knows me by name and on sight - though they may disavow such knowledge - so you can mention my name if you like. "Kitty" is good enough as no other 'Kitty' currently on the circuit is such a giant PITA as this particular Kitty.

Thanks for your interest in this.

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Probably what would work even better is put it on You Tube.
My presentation is an Instructor-led PowerPoint - not conducive to YouTube posting. Instructor-led presentations allow for dialog and Q&A. They are a teaching and learning process.

In addition, if it was available online on YouTube, I would truly expect the results and viewership to be the same as those new shooters who proactively go seek out GSSF rules and RO Guides - a very low percentage. In addition, those who have read the rules prior to shooting, very often do not understand and take away everything that was hoped for. (Virtually no one - RO and shooter alike - reads the RO Guides, and yet every non-RO shooter would benefit from those Guides as well.

With Instructor-led briefings we know that shooters (and ROs) are getting the message - and can ask questions if they are not. Sometimes when we are trying new things, we don't even know what we don't know. An interactive classroom setting will help the new shooter identify those things.

I am an Instructor who involves her students and obviously knows the rules - to a fault some would say. Instructor-led breifings would be great pilot program to begin to gauge successes and to provide greater enjoyment to all our shooters.

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May I ask you both... if there was a 20-30 minute New Shooter Workshop/Briefing that ran throughout the day, at this or other GSSF matches for new GSSF competitors, would you be inclined to attend?

The brief would include initial procedures, basic rules, and generally what to expect at the firing line - as well as suggestions for succesfully shooting each course of fire.

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Kitty,

I would sure appreciate any extra info and procedures that are to be followed for the matches. I've been shooting for 30 years but only in my "back 40" range. I can be there earlier if needed just email or pm me.

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As for RO Training, Scott Gilbertson has reviewed it, but has mentioned liability as an issue as I am not a Glock employee.
Well, there is an easy solution for this!

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May I ask you both... if there was a 20-30 minute New Shooter Workshop/Briefing that ran throughout the day, at this or other GSSF matches for new GSSF competitors, would you be inclined to attend?

The brief would include initial procedures, basic rules, and generally what to expect at the firing line - as well as suggestions for succesfully shooting each course of fire.

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Kitty - I believe I've seen you recommend a new shooters briefing in another thread. We just began shooting IDPA this summer, the IDPA new shooter briefing really helped me get over the first time jitters of moving and shooting. Additionally, the IDPA briefing stressed safety.

I like how all the RO's help as a new shooter comes to the line and I'm very pleased to see a new shooter's smile as they come off the line. If they had the opportunity for a briefing away from the firing line it probably would make their first match experience that much better.
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