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Old 01-05-2015, 18:36   #1
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S&W ceases support for 3rd Gen pistols?

I found a thread about this when searching for information about .45 ACP third gens.

I've had the chance to shoot some 3rd gens, and call me crazy all you want but I would take a 4506 (even a -1, which is the only one I currently own) over any .45. 220, HK45? Keep it. Give me a 4506.

Or at least.. I would have. I was just coming into the financial shape I wanted to be in to take a run at collecting a lot of 3rd gens. Guess that's out the window. I wanted them as shooters. No point in doing that if all I will get for turning one in is an offer to buy an M&P45 at a good price. The M&P is a nice pistol. Don't get me wrong. But if I'm going to go all plastic, I will wait on a VP45 to come out.

Old news in this thread. Sorry. Just wanted to vent. I think Smith has lost me. Used S&W revolvers are all that I am interested in with their name on it now.

Ruger did this with the P series and the Security revolvers. Also chaps my hide.
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Old 01-05-2015, 18:55   #2
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Tough for a company to support a product they no longer make. Shame they aren't made anymore.
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Old 01-05-2015, 19:09   #3
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Tough for a company to support a product they no longer make. Shame they aren't made anymore.
You're right. I will get over the disappointment and buy from them again. Just whining a little, to be honest. It's a shame they didn't catch on.
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Old 01-05-2015, 19:12   #4
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I've had the chance to shoot some 3rd gens, and call me crazy all you want but I would take a 4506 (even a -1, which is the only one I currently own) over any .45. 220, HK45? Keep it. Give me a 4506.
I think the Sig P220 is the pistol "closest" to the 4506 as far as current production. What don't you like about the Sig P220?

One thing to consider, the 4506 is a very robust pistol. So, if you were to find one that hasn't been shot much, it would last you quite a while.
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Old 01-05-2015, 19:12   #5
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parts will be available for a long time so you'll be good for awhile.
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Old 01-05-2015, 19:43   #6
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I don't like anything about S&W these days.

...other than the Shield, I guess.
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Old 01-05-2015, 22:25   #7
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Call S&W and hope you get a knowledgeable rep like I did. He sent me the new updated grips for free for my 5904 even though it was made in 1989 and I'm definitely not the original owner.

While I had him on the phone I asked him about support for the third Gen guns. He said they don't have many parts at the their facility (the place where they answer the calls), but there is a second warehouse where they do have parts. The other warehouse is where my grips came from which is in a different state than the S&W we know is located. Some police departments still use the 3rd. Gen guns so they still support them for now. I recently saw a picture of some cops in NY and they had 3rd. Gens strapped to their hips.

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Old 01-05-2015, 22:45   #8
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I don't like anything about S&W these days.

...other than the Shield, I guess.
Same. (Except that with my PPS, I don't even have any use for the Shield.)
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Old 01-05-2015, 23:54   #9
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Why would you be defiant about not being the original owner?
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I bet he meant he was pleased that he got free parts despite not being the original owner...some places only warranty parts for the original owner...

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Old 01-06-2015, 08:05   #11
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:18   #13
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I am pissed that SW stopped supporting the First Model Hand Eject.


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Old 01-06-2015, 13:04   #14
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A client I had some years back, discussing his decision to end support for some of his inventory, finally shrugged off my voice of concern with: " After all, even God discontinues product lines."
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Old 01-06-2015, 13:23   #15
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I guess lifetime warranty doesn't really mean lifetime anymore!
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I guess lifetime warranty doesn't really mean lifetime anymore!
It does until they deny a warranty claim.
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Old 01-06-2015, 14:18   #17
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I hear they don't do warranty work on Schofields anymore either, the jerks!
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Old 01-06-2015, 15:24   #18
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The future of 3rd Gen parts was a pretty hot topic at the Smith & Wesson Forum for a while but people have gotten a little more relaxed about it. More people have been posting about getting repair help and I'm sure S&W will continue to work with people.

Like Nakanokalronin said, a little polite talk with the right CS rep and you can do OK. They have always been a little hesitant with fire control and gunsmith fit parts but parts can still be found.

I've put many thousands of rounds thru mine, both bought used years ago and the only things I've replaced are recoil and magazine springs. I've trusted the 3913 to carry it for a lot of years. No matte what I try I keep going back to the slide decocker platform, just because I've gotten so used to it.

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Chaps my hide that Chevrolet no longer supports the Vega, Ford the Pinto, or AMC the Gremlin.
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