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Old 09-04-2012, 04:54   #41
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I suppose some people would swap a G26 of CW9 for a woman and some would swap a woman for a G26 of CW9. I guess it depends on the kind of woman!

The real answer is that it depends on the hand of the woman. All hands vary and she just has to shoot them first. The trouble with that is that she needs to learn to shoot a little first or she can't make an informed judgement.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:47   #42
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I've had both and still have the 26.... I found the Glock more reliable (never had a problem) and much easier to shoot accurately. There was nothing hugely wrong with the CW, but I couldn't just never warm up to it.

But in the end it will have to be her decision. Big mistake if you try to make it for her!
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Old 09-04-2012, 16:46   #43
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the Kahr is a disposable gun, shoot about 500 rounds through it and it is shot out, ready to toss it. I look at people carrying Kahrs as amateurs
Posts like this confirm that the internet is full of dangerous, misinformed "Pros".
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Old 09-04-2012, 17:23   #44
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I suppose some people would swap a G26 of CW9 for a woman and some would swap a woman for a G26 of CW9. I guess it depends on the kind of woman!

The real answer is that it depends on the hand of the woman. All hands vary and she just has to shoot them first. The trouble with that is that she needs to learn to shoot a little first or she can't make an informed judgement.
This post had a good point in it. Since this is her first gun, maybe she isn't ready yet to choose a specific gun - just needs more time to practice and develop more of an opinion.

We are all trying to give little points to consider, however, who wants someone else to pick our next gun for us. Go and rent a bunch of guns, and let her develop what interests and fits her better. When she is sure what she wants, she will know it and she will be much happier - and you will too.

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Old 09-08-2012, 09:06   #45
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Well....SW Shield seems a perfect combination but getting one is hard....no Gun Store have them...they have to be goood ...

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Old 09-08-2012, 10:32   #46
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She will decide, you will say "yes honey, what ever you want"!
"Exactly", Do NOT forget it will be Her gun.. Kahr makes a Fine product and you can get lighter springs for it...
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:36   #47
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I don't have a Glock mini or a Shield, so can't comment. I do have a Kahr CW9 and a Glock 19 Gen 4 (just bought). I like them both.

I don't know haw many rounds A Kahr CW9 can shoot before needing service, but it is well into the tens of thousands, so I would not call this a "disposable" gun. People have done this. Most people wouldn't shoot it that much as it's not really designed to be a target pistol.

The Kahr is surprisingly comfortable to shoot. The feed ramp is offset, lowering the slide and barrel. That plus the grip design make for good ergos, at least for me. I do have to say that when the polymer framed Kahr's first came out, ten years or so back, I tried them and had major problems. They seem to have ironed them out. The Kahr is a little harder to strip than the Glock, but what isn't? And the Kahr has an amazingly smooth, although somewhat long trigger pull. The slide on the Kahr is not hard to strip, although again not quite as easy as the Glock. The frame on the Kahr is a bear to detail strip. But the good news is you probably would never need to. Spray it out with some Gun Scrubber and relube a couple of points and you're good to go.

The Kahr recoil spring is very stiff. It has to be as the slide weighs very little. And the feed angle is rather steep, so slingshoting the first round is tricky but not impossible. Releasing the slide stop has never failed to chamber a first round for me.

I don't think Kahrs are for everyone. But they are not cheap guns. They are as well made (in the USA) as anything out there I think. Because they are so small and light they do have limitations, but I am happy with mine. I don't expect target pistol accuracy with such a short sight radius, but it will outshoot any snubby I've owned in spades. It's major virtue is its ability to be concealed where few other pistols can be, and its ability to shoot harder and more accurately than anything I know of that is that small and light. I was quite amazed, actually, to see Hickok45 hitting his gong at 80 yards with a PM9, even smaller than the CW9!

Last Summer I bought my Kahr CW9 and a Glock 19 Gen 4 early production. I was unaware of the issues with Gen 4 Glocks - had had a 19 before and assumed it would be OK. I had had serious issues with 4 straight Kahr's ten years ago, and was expecting to have to work to make it work. I was quite surprised when the Kahr ran like a Swiss watch out of the box and the Glock was a jamamatic. I got rid of the Glock - recently got another one of recent manufacture, which has been fine so far.

Don't know if all this rambling will help. The best advise is to have her shoot the guns she is considering before buying anything.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:34   #48
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G26 or a CW9? I'd think CM9 would be more comparable as both are considered "sub compact" class (G26??? seriously??? LOL). CM9 grip length is VERY close to G26, CW9 grip length is comparable with G19.

If concealment is not a key factor in the consideration, G26 would be a better choice.

I have 26, 19, CM and CW in my rotation.. Kahrs are ONLY for Spring / Summer, Glocks are throughout Fall / Winter... and also Spring/Summer whenever attire allows.

Happy shopping.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:39   #49
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I don't think Kahrs are for everyone. But they are not cheap guns.
Not any more nowadays... market pressure from Ruger, KelTek, etc.. are eating into their "subcompact 9" market..

CM and CW are now $350 ~ $370 (new) when you shop around. Kahr has "cheapen their cost" by using paperbox, etc...
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Old 09-08-2012, 14:40   #50
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Love my Kahrs...but that was after about 600 rounds of breakin. You need to be committed to that. The plus side is, you get to know the Kahr VERY well. I had a series of feeding and ejection issues until things settled in, now it runs wonderfully. But I wouldnt trust it out of the box without a few hundred rounds through it.
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Old 09-08-2012, 15:12   #51
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Kahr or the Glock is fine. I am a believer in keeping it simple. If you have Glocks or Kahrs go with the same brand. Everything is in the same place , triggers are the same , sights etc. if it the only carry gun she will ever have pick the best one that she shoots the best. Never " feels the best" as the Golfing great teacher Jimmy Ballard said " Feelings will fool ya"


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Old 01-29-2013, 00:32   #52
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I'm a woman and I have both. I have been a die hard Glock fan for the last 12 years but since I got my Kahr CM9, I haven't carried my Glock much. It is my night stand gun however.
If she is going to carry it, I would say the Kahr definitely. If it is mostly going to be used for home defense and the range then I would say Glock.
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Old 01-29-2013, 00:39   #53
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I'd advise her to go with the one she shoots better and make comfort a secondary issue.

If she shoots the Kahr as good as the G26, it's a go. If she shoots the 26 better, I'd advise her to go with the Glock.

Either way it will be a sound choice.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:27   #54
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The Kahr CW9, CM9, PM9, M&P shield are all better than the G26 in my experience. I have had about 20 women to the range to shoot these (and others) head to head and none of them picked the G26. That said, it is personal preference and there will be things she may like that trend to the emotional side so you may or may not understand her choice.
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Old 01-29-2013, 14:32   #55
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Has she racked the slide on the Kahr yet?
Or take apart? Or pulled the trigger? Ugh
All 3 of those are big turn off for me, With trigger being the deal breaker.
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Old 01-29-2013, 17:13   #56
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Posts like this confirm that the internet is full of dangerous, misinformed "Pros".
Absolutely I have had both sold the piece of junk G26 that kept throwing brass in my face, even after sending it back to Glock. I am not hating on Glocks because I still have a Gen 2 19 that runs beautifully. I also still have the CW9 with at least 500rds thru it and it keeps on going. Check out the Kahr forum for reliable information on the Kahr.
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Old 01-29-2013, 18:39   #57
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Guys

My girlfriend is buying her first gun

She shot my G26 and liked it but...she is in love with the Kahr since its slimmer ....I told her Glocks are a war tank but you know how women are...lol

Any opinions ??



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Old 01-29-2013, 21:46   #58
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The Kahrs are interesting...my LEO tradein K9 I can hit a gnat, wonderful groupings. My CW9 throws lead all over the place for me. Difference between steel and polymer and type of grip, so it will take a little bit of experience to get that sorted.

To their credit, Glocks are very consistant with the way they place lead across the product line. I shoot the 21, 19, 17 and 23 all about the same.
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Old 01-30-2013, 20:49   #59
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My wife is very petite and has tiny hands. She tried every double stack 9 mm available and fell in love with how the Springfield Armory XD9SC fit her hands. That is my first recommendation any time small hands are an issue.
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Well I'm a guy, but I have a G26 which I've carried almost daily since I started carrying a gun. I would never give it up. Just recently I acquired a Kahr PM9 to supplement the Glock. Unfortunately I cannot report as to my opinion on the Kahr as I have not got to shoot it yet. It looks and feels like a nice weapon. I'm hoping to get to shoot this week.

I would be more interested in the S&W Shield if they offered it without the manual safety. I don't know why they don't since the other M&P guns can be had without it.
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