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Old 09-14-2012, 10:25   #51
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...pe=marketsNews

Damn those Germans and their interventionist policies in Khartoum.

And the Brits too...friggin interventionists!

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/38...ge-protest.htm

And now the US embassy in Tunis:

http://news.sky.com/story/985121/tun...ack-us-embassy

And now Sudan:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/globa...bassies/56859/



So when was it that we bombed the Sudan again....?

1998. Too easy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us...n-1172925.html

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In north-east Khartoum, the US strikes wrecked a building which America claimed was a chemical weapons plant but the Sudanese said was a pharmaceuticals factory. The Sudanese Interior Minister, Abdel-Raheem Mohammed, denied there were any chemical weapons factories in the country.

A Sudanese mob stormed the empty US Embassy compound in Khartoum. Scores of people scaled its wrought-iron perimeter fence while hundreds more outside threw stones at the building or struck at the fence with sticks. They shouted: "Allahu Akbar", the Muslim rally cry meaning "God is Great", and: "Down, Down USA", in English.
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/khartoumbomb.html

Lots more archived articles on it at that link. It was an aspirin factory.

There's that damn repeating history popping up again!

And here's "our closest Middle East ally" blowing things up in Sudan much more recently.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_845417.html

I can't imagine why Sudanese would be tired of being bombed. Aren't they supposed to enjoy being democratized?


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How many times have you gone feet wet ?.'08.
Military? Never. Not sure how that matters.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:35   #52
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1998.
So it took them 14 years to work up the courage to storm our embassy?



pause.....



I think you need a new theory.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:36   #53
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Winnie -

I give up. Clearly, you are more... well, SOMETHING... than all the rest of us combined. Thank God there aren't more of your "brain type".

And if it pains you so to come hang with us ignorant mouth breathers, please stop coming back. I will miss you until you resurface again.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:27   #55
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Yes I do spend A LOT of time on the net reading information from many sources, even sources I don't agree with (like this forum, generally), in order to objectively form opinions and complex theories based on the large amounts of information I soak up. I don't have the inclination to give you further personal information about myself since I get the feeling you're trying to come to some sort of conclusion about who I am. Never been asked by anyone for so much personal information on a website except you. I do recall how you essentially tried to frame me as some sort of terrorist in a previous thread. Remember, I do know how intelligence agencies function You'll have to just debate my statements at face value. You're really starting to creep me out with your personal information requests.
I have intentionally avoided looking for any names of delegates, I have no interest in anyone here in real life. But I did want to give you an opportunity to guve some credence to your position.

But no response is a response. Hope you don't mind all of us assuming that your sources are Truther sites, George
Noory and Alex Jones then, with no international personal experience. All you know is what others have told you, that made it through your tinfoil filter.
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Winnie -

It's also amusing that the poster brings up a reference to 1984.

I think you are right on, Q.


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1998. Too easy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us...n-1172925.html



http://www.mega.nu/ampp/khartoumbomb.html

Lots more archived articles on it at that link. It was an aspirin factory.

There's that damn repeating history popping up again!

And here's "our closest Middle East ally" blowing things up in Sudan much more recently.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_845417.html

I can't imagine why Sudanese would be tired of being bombed. Aren't they supposed to enjoy being democratized?




Military? Never. Not sure how that matters.

"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - SecState Kissinger, as reported by Bob Woodward in book Final Days

See, now we know you are more polite in person, cause with your nose bleeding every 28 days like it does, you'd never say that to a vet face to face.

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QnMan. Golatender, Cav doc.



Here we have a look at how the paulbot mentality verges on a constant state of "conspiracy alert". Despite the fact that they claim to be all about "freedom" inside them lurks a little control demon. While they talk "freedom" they actually belive that everyting in the world happens because of plots, plans, conspiracies, etc. They cannot grasp "Occam's Razor".

The fact that more events in history have been shaped by luck, chance, stupidity, bad decisions, groups of fanatics and sole fanatics, is completely out of their reality. It all simply must be a conspiracy, a plot or someones plan.

What is scary, is that people who think this way are trying to take power in this Country. Do you really want to give power to folks whose whole paradigm is conspiracy?

They are sure these things control events, so how are they most likely to control events?
The theme that keeps coming up is a know it all that's done nothing. Amazing how he knows so much about foreign affairs without ever leaving the country, he is a product of his predispositions and the media he chooses to confirm his own wacky conspiracy theories. The more you know, the more you are supposed to realize you have a lot to learn. He is unencumbered by that notion.
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Military? Never. Not sure how that matters.

"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - SecState Kissinger, as reported by Bob Woodward in book Final Days
Well during his time Kissinger was correct,times they are a changing.Our military is better trained and smarter than years ago.

As ta the "feet" wet comment,it goes ta show your lack of understanding of world military events.It's kinda hard ta speak ta something using "net" info,instead of actually being there.'08.
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The theme that keeps coming up is a know it all that's done nothing. Amazing how he knows so much about foreign affairs without ever leaving the country, he is a product of his predispositions and the media he chooses to confirm his own wacky conspiracy theories. The more you know, the more you are supposed to realize you have a lot to learn. He is unencumbered by that notion.
The more you learn about real events in history the more you realize how little effect "conspiracies" could have in the face of the vagaries of individual decisions.

General McClellan had confederate battle plans, found in a field, in his hands and fumbled around with them until it was too late to make good use of the information.

Look up the "McCluskey turn" in WWII, one decision changed events.


Some very fine high level military minds in Germany were not able to pull off a simple Private's job and kill one man. The failed in more than one attempt to kill a maniac.

The decision to ride in a convertible one day made events in Dallas significant.

A piece of tape left over a door lock uravelled a group of "plumbers"

Great events are most often the result of anything but carefully crafted plans.
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It's also amusing that the poster brings up a reference to 1984.

I think you are right on, Q.


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You know I'm not prone to rash accusations. But this one has WinstonSmith to a tee.

Many believe feathers was Winnie. I do not.

This one is.
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You know I'm not prone to rash accusations. But this one has WinstonSmith to a tee.

Many believe feathers was Winnie. I do not.

This one is.
I'm coming on board with that notion. The writing "style" (such as it is) and the verbosity are classic Winnie.

Which would also definitely not make this poster a true RP supporter -- Winnie was Marxist (okay, socialist) to the core. That Western imperialism remark was just one of those things that a die-hard leftist can't get away from...


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I'm coming on board with that notion. The writing "style" (such as it is) and the verbosity are classic Winnie.

Which would also definitely not make this poster a true RP supporter -- Winnie was Marxist (okay, socialist) to the core. That Western imperialism remark was just one of those things that a die-hard leftist can't get away from...


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Didn't a few people put forth the notion, that, the goal of many of the Rongoloids was actually take votes fron the Republican candidate,

For the purpose of seeing the Marxist and Chief reelected?



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Well during his time Kissinger was correct,times they are a changing.Our military is better trained and smarter than years ago.

As ta the "feet" wet comment,it goes ta show your lack of understanding of world military events.It's kinda hard ta speak ta something using "net" info,instead of actually being there.'08.
Yep. He doesn't know too much about freedom, he's never put his arse on the line for it.

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Didn't a few people put forth the notion, that, the goal of many of the Rongoloids was actually take votes fron the Republican candidate,

For the purpose of seeing the Marxist and Chief reelected?



"Western Imperialism"

A signature line where ever it appears.
I believe the inverse is equally true... Many leftists will pose as disenfranchised Ronulans in order to chip at Romney from the right.
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Has been able to attempt to give cover for Hillary and Barry blowing the intel available on the embassy attacks, let's piss him off and trash the Barry admin for their mistakes.
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Has been able to attempt to give cover for Hillary and Barry blowing the intel available on the embassy attacks, let's piss him off and trash the Barry admin for their mistakes.
Indeed. Why talk about a POTUS who never gave the date a thought, apologized for our bringing this on ourselves, then jetted off for Vegas to raise campaign cash, when we can talk about how we brought it all on ourselves...

Wait... What?
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Oh wait, I forgot... It's just like a Tom Clancy novel - the REAL instigators are double-super-secret CIA agents, known only to the Buildebergs and Colonel Sanders (before he went **** up) AND to those of specific brain types who can read the REAL hidden agenda "between the lines". The DSS CIA agents whose main purpose is to stir the pot so we can continue our secret plot to dominate the world, one sandbox at a time! So we can control the worlds oil supply, while paying $8 a gallon at the pump.

It's all so CLEAR now!!!
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See, now we know you are more polite in person, cause with your nose bleeding every 28 days like it does, you'd never say that to a vet face to face.
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We can see the same about several GNGers - the mere fact that they are able to continue typing shows that they don't say, in the real world, what they say here. Assuming they ever go out into the real world.
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Oh wait, I forgot... It's just like a Tom Clancy novel - the REAL instigators are double-super-secret CIA agents, known only to the Buildebergs and Colonel Sanders (before he went **** up) AND to those of specific brain types who can read the REAL hidden agenda "between the lines". The DSS CIA agents whose main purpose is to stir the pot so we can continue our secret plot to dominate the world, one sandbox at a time! So we can control the worlds oil supply, while paying $8 a gallon at the pump.

It's all so CLEAR now!!!
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Oh wait..... my bad, wrong president.
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While I am sure that it had DEEMED the intelligence not actionable, to say that it isn't today is a complete farce.

Barry bowed and apologized, a encouraged the current regimes in Libya and Egypt, and now we are getting what he was asking for.
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Has been able to attempt to give cover for Hillary and Barry blowing the intel available on the embassy attacks, let's piss him off and trash the Barry admin for their mistakes.
Wow! Im flattered that you think I'm some inside Dem operative that can run effective cover for BO and Hillary to the level that you think you need to point it out on this forum. I'm seriously honored. I should run for office! Hmmm...
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The theme that keeps coming up is a know it all that's done nothing. Amazing how he knows so much about foreign affairs without ever leaving the country, he is a product of his predispositions and the media he chooses to confirm his own wacky conspiracy theories. The more you know, the more you are supposed to realize you have a lot to learn. He is unencumbered by that notion.
Or I could have just listened to Osama bin Laden's own stated reasons and goals for the 9/11 attacks and researched from there. The 9/11 Commission Report and the CIA itself confirm the blowback argument. Bankrupting the country, never ending foreign conflicts etc

Did you take the MBTI test yet Cav? Mine says Im accurately aware of what I know but also what I don't. Whats your MBTI type?
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Oh wait..... my bad, wrong president.
That'll bring prosperity and peace to the world.

Can we please stop acting like only Americans can be angry at being attacked?
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