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Old 09-17-2012, 08:38   #1
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Wilson combat ar triggers

Any good? I have a custom G9 being built right now and I'm thinking of using either a TIMNEY, JP, or WILSON. My sponsor prefers Wilson Combat. What do you guys think?
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:31   #2
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Wilson knows 1911s.

This does not necessarily translate to AR's.

I would advise you use a Geissele or JP.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:47   #3
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I'd go Timney or Geissele. The Timney dropin is the lightest trigger I've ever had that will reliably light hard primers.

The Geissele is GTG, but not as light as the Timney can be.
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I've yet to not like any of the Geisseles I've tried, though my favorite is the SSA-E.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:23   #6
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Giessele SSA or SSA-E I own them both. Completely reliable.
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Anyone tried the Geissele Super 3 gun?
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Anyone tried the Geissele Super 3 gun?
That the straight one? If so, it's got a great trigger pull, but I hate the way straight triggers feel. Or that might be the SD3G. Both are very light.
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That the straight one? If so, it's got a great trigger pull, but I hate the way straight triggers feel. Or that might be the SD3G. Both are very light.
I think you can get straight or curved.
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Giessele SSA or SSA-E I own them both. Completely reliable.
I can't understand putting a 2-stage trigger in close range guns like M4's and pistol caliber carbines. Either improve a stock trigger or get a Chip McCormick single stage. 2-stage triggers are fine for 20" and longer competition and precision rifles, but are too long (pull-wise) and complicated for a carbine, in my opinion.
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I can't understand putting a 2-stage trigger in close range guns like M4's and pistol caliber carbines. Either improve a stock trigger or get a Chip McCormick single stage. 2-stage triggers are fine for 20" and longer competition and precision rifles, but are too long (pull-wise) and complicated for a carbine, in my opinion.
Have you ever shot a Geissele? You can't even tell it's a two stage during rapid fire and you have the second stage available for higher precision shots when needed.
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Old 09-17-2012, 17:33   #12
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I can't understand putting a 2-stage trigger in close range guns like M4's and pistol caliber carbines. Either improve a stock trigger or get a Chip McCormick single stage. 2-stage triggers are fine for 20" and longer competition and precision rifles, but are too long (pull-wise) and complicated for a carbine, in my opinion.
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Have you ever shot a Geissele? You can't even tell it's a two stage during rapid fire and you have the second stage available for higher precision shots when needed.
I shot my way into Master Class with 2 stage triggers.... remember the rapid fire stages of NRA highpower require 10 shots including a reload in a minute from standing to prone or sitting.
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Thanks for all the info folks. I'm kind of new to ARs, I've had a few but never modified anything. I'm going to take a long hard look at Timney, I keep hearing good things. As soon as the gun is done I'll share some pics, videos and a small review. Should be an interesting build.




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Have you ever shot a Geissele? You can't even tell it's a two stage during rapid fire and you have the second stage available for higher precision shots when needed.
Tried one out today. One of the best triggers I ever fired on an AR. BTW, I have 2 ARs with Timneys that don't compare.
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Old 09-17-2012, 21:31   #16
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Geissele . If you don't want or need a light trigger, the ALG Combat Trigger is fantastic for $70 or less, and it's a Geissele design.
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Not to mention that with a decent trigger and scope, a 500m shot with a carbine is do-able.
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So.... has anyone tried the Wilson trigger?
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And those all have in common that they are more powerful and longer range rifles - not pistol or 5.56 carbines. That's pretty much what I said. My A2 competition service rifle has a 2-stage trigger. My M4, like any good M4, has a simple, reliable, single-stage trigger.

I am assuming he meant a G9 on a Lone Wolf G9 lower - a pistol caliber AR that uses Glock magazines.

No way a 2-stage trigger makes sense in that. Just a reliability issue that makes it harder to shoot fast.
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Not to mention that with a decent trigger and scope, a 500m shot with a carbine is do-able.
It's doable against man-sized targets with a 10.5" barrel, even.

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And those all have in common that they are more powerful and longer range rifles - not pistol or 5.56 carbines. That's pretty much what I said. My A2 competition service rifle has a 2-stage trigger. My M4, like any good M4, has a simple, reliable, single-stage trigger.

I am assuming he meant a G9 on a Lone Wolf G9 lower - a pistol caliber AR that uses Glock magazines.

No way a 2-stage trigger makes sense in that. Just a reliability issue that makes it harder to shoot fast.
Bren the M1 Carbine isnt for long range. One could make the argument that a glock has a 2 stage trigger as well, just with a sort reset. What about all the DAO autos on the market like the SIG DAK or the HK LEM? I'm not challenging you, just saying there are other pistols and carbines using 2 stages.
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I thought about trying the Timney, Wilson, and RRA. I took into account the reviews of each trigger (hear and other forums). I read good and bad about all three brands. The only trigger that I didn't see any negative reviews about (other than price): Giessele SSA or SSA-E. I got the SSA-E, and am glad about the purchase. I would still look at the other three, but am partial to the Giessele. If you know someone who has one of the four - ask if you can try it out. But I doubt you would be disappointed with the Giessele.
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I thought about trying the Timney, Wilson, and RRA. I took into account the reviews of each trigger (hear and other forums). I read good and bad about all three brands. The only trigger that I didn't see any negative reviews about (other than price): Giessele SSA or SSA-E. I got the SSA-E, and am glad about the purchase. I would still look at the other three, but am partial to the Giessele. If you know someone who has one of the four - ask if you can try it out. But I doubt you would be disappointed with the Giessele.
Bought a RRA LAR15 with the stock 4.5lb 2 stage a few months back. Absolutley love that trigger,...very crisp indeed. Comes in chrome too if your looking for bling
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Old 09-18-2012, 22:31   #24
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Its very hard to beat the Timney 3 LB trigger. I've them in two of my ARs, and let me tell you its about as good as a trigger gets. Very easy to install and has its own anti walk trigger/hammer pin tension screw so no need for KNS anti walk pins.
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