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Old 09-24-2012, 19:10   #1
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Henry US Survival .22 rifle, who's got one?

Who has one of these? I've got the .22 pistol I'm going to train my son on, but I've been seriously considering a Henry US Survival .22 for a possible rifle for him too. Not settled on this, it's just one of the one's I have in consideration for a good youth training rifle. Plus I think it's kind of cool too. If you've got one, please give me some feedback. Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-24-2012, 19:22   #2
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Until I got one in my hands, I was interested in the Henry Survival Rifle. It felt "cheap". Then the overwhelming mediocre to negative reviews across the internet soured me on it.

If you must start out your son on an auto-loading rifle, you might want to consider a Ruger 10/22 Compact.
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Old 09-24-2012, 19:36   #3
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Bad sights, bad trigger, weird threaded barrel, funky cheap magazines... If you really want to "survive", buy a Ruger MKII or a Browning BuckMark.
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Old 09-24-2012, 20:41   #4
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Take a look at the fairly new Ruger 10/22 Take-down .22lr - it's cool.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:08   #5
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If you really want to "survive", buy a Ruger MKII or a Browning BuckMark.
Well... I'm already set in the .22 pistol area with a Ruger SR22 & a S&W 22A-1. I think I'll go ahead and check out some variations of a 10/22, or if I go with Henry I'll get a lever action. I used to have one of those and had lots of fun with it.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:42   #6
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Take a look at the Marlin Papoose
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:22   #7
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Henry lever guns are nice. . . But so is the Ruger 10/22 take-down version.

Feather also made a nice .22, if you can find one at a reasonable price.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:34   #8
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I've got one that was given to me by a friend. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but it seems to be OK for what it is designed for.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:45   #9
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The AR-7 is a very specialized firearm; it is definitely not the best choice for a youth training rifle.

If you need something that fits into that compact space envelope for a "carried a lot, shot a little" application, that is one thing, an AR-7 might be your rifle. But, for your application - youth training - you want a length of pull that is suited to your student; an AR-7 has a buttstock long enough to store the 16 1/2" barrel, which means it has a LOP that is too long for most small people. You want a rifle that can be shot a lot; any AR-7 (including the Henry Survival Rifle) is just not designed for that.

While the new takedown version of the Ruger 10/22 is easy to recommend (for you), realize that the new shooter can benefit from taking his time. Any semi-automatic works against that, for the new shooter at least. I suggest that you consider a Savage bolt-action rifle - sized to your son - to start with.
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Take a look at the Marlin Papoose
That's a good little rifle too. Mom & Dad got me one of those for my birthday when I was a kid. Unfortunately, stupid me pawned it when I was 18 to pay for a speeding ticket. That was 20 years and I still regret it. The dumb things we do when we're young....
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:35   #12
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The Henry is better than the previous ones, though the original Armalite Ar7 is a collector's item now.

The Ar7 itself is pretty much a niche gun. Kind of a stash away, last ditch type thing. It stores inside the stock but he stock is so bulky as to not be very practical to pack. On the other hand it is very light, somewhat reliable, somewhat accurate out to 15-20 yards or so. There are some aftermarket stocks available for it that make it more practical. It is also kind of expensive for what you get. It is aluminum with a steel lined plastic barrel. Back when they were $100 they were worth it. Now they are well over $200 and still only worth $100.

My suggestion for a kids gun is a youth/compact model Ruger 10/22. They are very handy, light weight and can grow with the kids. They are infinitely customizable and when he is an old man he can make it back into a compact rifle again to go walk in the woods with.
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Old 09-25-2012, 15:00   #13
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I have shot the Henry and the AR-7 they are good for what they were designed for . A cheap lightweight, use if you have to .22 rifle. Not meant for long term shootability or tack driving accuracy . I would not use them for training myself , but that is just my opinion. If you want durable and packability , the 10/22 takedown for a rifle hands down .
If you are just talking about training there are many high quality air rifles out there that are capable of doing that job as well. I have one that will hit a nickle at 50 yards until you get bored of doing it .
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I recently purchased an AR-7. I think the stock is very bulky but it does, what it is designed to do, very well for a back pack rifle. It fits in my Game Winner from Academy Sports with more than enough room for the zipper to get around but as everyone else has stated, it would not be my choice for a good quality first time 22. I have always wanted a Ruger 10-22 but have just never got serious about it. There is a ton of aftermarket products for the 10-22 and WalMart usually has a couple in the case. There is no doubting the quality of the Ruger; That would be my recommendation. But, I am fairly sure, that by now the OP has already made a decision.
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Old 04-03-2013, 16:29   #15
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Same as above.
I was interested in them until I got my hands on one.
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Old 04-03-2013, 17:24   #16
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Ruger take down.

Funny about the AR7 but the design has been through about a half a dozen companies and s far as I knew, two companies ago, they all followed the "specs" so closely that they all left one easily corrected flaw in.
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Old 04-03-2013, 17:51   #17
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I could never get it to feed correctly, since the end of the bbl is also the feed ramp, and it has no ramp. Straight up and down. I had a friend grind a ramp for me. Kaboom, unsupported case blew the magazine out the bottom of the gun. It's a great gun if you don't want to shoot it, stores all cool in the stock, floats. Just that accurately firing thing that doesn't work.

I recently got a Papoose. It has a feed ramp, cycled a 25 round Ramline without a hiccup, and comes apart into a carrying case. Not as compact as an AR7, but it works great.
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Yeh, the first time I tried to cycle a magazine I found that the round stopped dead at the lip of the chamber, because there appeared to be no kind of feed mechanism.

So I took a dremel to it and now it cycles without a hitch and then I fired a couple of rounds with no visible damage or change to the brass. Extracted about 3 feet to the right.

I sure hope I don't have the kind of trouble I've been reading about.

As for accuracy, I'll check on that later when I get access to a barn, or at least the broad side of a barn.
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Yeh, the first time I tried to cycle a magazine I found that the round stopped dead at the lip of the chamber, because there appeared to be no kind of feed mechanism.

So I took a dremel to it and now it cycles without a hitch and then I fired a couple of rounds with no visible damage or change to the brass. Extracted about 3 feet to the right.

I sure hope I don't have the kind of trouble I've been reading about.

As for accuracy, I'll check on that later when I get access to a barn, or at least the broad side of a barn.
That's it right there. None of the specs ever called for chamfering the lip of the chamber, so they weren't.

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Semiauto state of the art is Ruger 10/22 by a huge margin.
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