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Old 09-25-2012, 20:45   #21
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That's impossible. Custody disputes; medical disputes; inheritance; tax filings; regulation of adoption agencies; civil suits against "discriminatory" churches, banquet halls, misc businesses; divorce proceedings.
A simple contract between a couple (or group) covers most of the normal legal issues that arise in creating or dissolving a marriage. As for suits against churches, it's a non-issue; churches currently discriminate with regards to who can be married in their buildings with no problem, legalizing polygamy or gay marriage would do nothing to change that.
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Old 09-25-2012, 20:47   #22
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Animals can't consent. Of course, I'm fairly sure you know that.
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Old 09-25-2012, 20:53   #23
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"Polygamy": A Crime that is also it's own punishment.
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:25   #24
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How is it different then a marriage?



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Because it is not a man and a woman. Pretending that the word marriage has not retained a historical meaning in Western civilization is dishonest.
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:32   #25
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I don't care what they do, just don't call it marriage.
Do you own the term or its definition?
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:35   #26
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Do you own the term or its definition?
No. I also don't own the definition of the word "shoe". Does that mean it's correct to start calling the 500 pound stainless steel box that keeps our food cold a "sneaker"?
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:36   #27
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Thats right why have Marriage at all! You can go screw anyone you want, live with them and when you get tried of there **** just leave. If you have kids with twenty different women who cares, just get a new one, let them take care of them, you don't have to pay nothing or raise them. Who cares right it's not your responsibility! That means no divorce , no allimony, no cares what so ever. Hey your kids can screw each other as well I mean we shouldn't care what they do right! Why should you, you don't care who your sleeping with nor the kids you have! Right! Now of course this doen't apply to gay couples as they can't have children- oh wait they can now since anything goes right! So Lesbian can get knockup for free by some dude- save the trip to a doctor to get enseminated!
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:39   #28
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Because it is not a man and a woman. Pretending that the word marriage has not retained a historical meaning in Western civilization is dishonest.

Honestly there are a lot of different ways to see a thing. The word marriage is used in cooking, art, culture, for things coming together.

You can have a small view of things or a large view of things.

Pretending that there is only one way to see a thing is dishonest.

No double entendres intended.


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Old 09-25-2012, 21:39   #29
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No. I also don't own the definition of the word "shoe". Does that mean it's correct to start calling the 500 pound stainless steel box that keeps our food cold a "sneaker"?
OK ... We are clear then. You don't own the term or its definition. So ... Mind your own business and quit trying to define it for someone else.

PS - You can call your shoe OR your refrigerator whatever you want. Doesn't impact me. See how that works? Neat .. Huh?
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Animals can't consent. Of course, I'm fairly sure you know that.

What about implied consent.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...mplied+consent


"Consent that is inferred from signs, actions, or facts, or by inaction or silence."

Not that there is anything wrong with that.....
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Old 09-25-2012, 21:46   #31
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What about implied consent.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...mplied+consent


"Consent that is inferred from signs, actions, or facts, or by inaction or silence."

Not that there is anything wrong with that.....

Well they can't hire their own lawyers so there is little chance............



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Old 09-25-2012, 21:55   #32
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Honestly there are a lot of different ways to see a thing. The word marriage is used in cooking, art, culture, for things coming together.
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So you're going to tell me that you don't understand the difference between how the word marriage applies in the context of a married couple and the context of cooking?

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OK ... We are clear then. You don't own the term or its definition.
Nobody owns definitions. By their very nature they are not things that can be owned. Your argument seems to be: since nobody can own a definition, then words have no real meaning. When I say "tree", you could honestly have no idea what I'm referring to and think that I might be referencing the rocking chair you're sitting on rather than the spruce in your front yard.

I think it's fair to say that you've lost the argument at that point.

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Old 09-25-2012, 22:00   #33
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So you're going to tell me that you don't understand the difference between how word marriage applies in the context of a couple and the context of cooking?
So you're going to tell me that don't undestand how the word marriage is things coming together? A couple is not just man and woman. A couple of anything coming together can be called a marriage. You may not like it, but that is the way the word is used.

Understand?


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Old 09-25-2012, 22:04   #34
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I think this is the first time I've ever opened a GT thread and saw so many rational posts. I approve.
Ditto.

Btw, there *is* a slippery slope to be afraid of, but it's the one that looks more like George Orwell at the bottom than Joseph Smith.
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Old 09-25-2012, 22:06   #35
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So you're going to tell me that don't undestand how the word marriage is things coming together?
Yes, marriage in a general sense means the coming together of things - although in usage, it distinguishes. Words have context and their definition applies accordingly.

Example: If you were describing an car accident, you wouldn't say "the two cars married," even though they technically 'came together' when they impacted.

If I'm going to have to run a remedial reading class every time I quote one of your posts, this is going to wear thin rather quickly.

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If I'm going to have to run a remedial reading class every time I quote one of your posts, this is going to wear thin rather quickly.
Just messing with you man. You can be right today.


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polygamy was fine in the old testament/new testament.
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Yet being gay was not! So now your going to use the Bilble to justify this crap? Really? The Hypocracy of the Homosexual agenda pushers is over the top! As I said in my first post - why don't we just get rid of Marriage all together! Take all responsibility out of relationships! Go sleep with whom ever or what ever you want- absolutely no obligations! While we are at it lets just do away with all responisiblity for anyone- no laws, no governement at all just do as you please!
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And don't forget the Muslims.
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Yet being gay was not! So now your going to use the Bilble to justify this crap? Really? The Hypocracy of the Homosexual agenda pushers is over the top! As I said in my first post - why don't we just get rid of Marriage all together! Take all responsibility out of relationships! Go sleep with whom ever or what ever you want- absolutely no obligations! While we are at it lets just do away with all responisiblity for anyone- no laws, no governement at all just do as you please!
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