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Old 10-02-2012, 20:17   #1
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Your input please

So...... I was able to post this on the Ar part, not sure why, so it is going here. What is the hype over flat top Ar15's? What advantages does it give the user? Compared to an A2 upper or a flattop, which is better, and why. Please give me some good information to go on. Part of me wants to change out my A2 upper to a flat top because well "All the cool guys are doing it," yet part of me likes how the A2 is (though that could be because that's all I know).

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Old 10-02-2012, 20:23   #2
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If all you want to use is iron sites and you fancy the handy carrying handle, then an A2 is all you need.

If you would like to put an optic on your AR, then a flat top is quite useful.
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Old 10-02-2012, 20:30   #3
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If all you want to use is iron sites and you fancy the handy carrying handle, then an A2 is all you need.

If you would like to put an optic on your AR, then a flat top is quite useful.
I disagree, if you want to run a carry handle still get a flat top, and just put a carry handle on it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 20:51   #4
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Basically, a flattop gives you more flexibility to customize, IMO.

If you're happy with your setup, then enjoy it, and don't worry about what's popular or currently the 'in' thing.

I built mine with a flattop because I like the look and as was stated, you can add a carry handle to it if the need/desire arises.

If you want to try a flattop, just get a second upper.



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Old 10-02-2012, 21:24   #5
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If you never ever ever want optics ever ever, just get an AR with permanently attached carrying handle. If you think of optics possibility down the road, get a flat top AR with a flipped up rear sight. Sure, you can attach optics onto the carrying handle, but it's cumbersome. Sure, you can get a detachable carrying handle, but, once you plan on optics, you're gonna toss that handle and buy a BUIS.
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Old 10-02-2012, 22:02   #6
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I have one A2 and two flattops! Like them all! And the A2 does wear an optic.
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Old 10-03-2012, 15:45   #7
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A flat top provides a superior platform for mounting optics or any type of rear sight you want.
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Old 10-03-2012, 18:05   #8
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For most it has nothing to do w/ cool. It's all about superior function. The carry handle has been replaced w/ a more functional device, a sling.

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Old 10-03-2012, 18:59   #9
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This is why it was originally there


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Why it was kept after the charging handle was changed ???
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Old 10-03-2012, 20:00   #10
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Why it was kept after the charging handle was changed ???
This officially makes my "learn something new everyday" list for today. Thanks!
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:33   #11
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This officially makes my "learn something new everyday" list for today. Thanks!
Same here! Something I definitely did not know and is really cool to see.

I agree with everyone else that said a flattop allows for more flexibility.
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Old 10-04-2012, 17:24   #12
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A carry handle is a pain in the arse and you'll never actually carry your gun with it. Flat tops give you the option for optics, irons, both, etc. or even adding a handle if that's your thing. Flatop is the way to go.
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Old 10-05-2012, 21:37   #13
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Why it was kept after the charging handle was changed ???
Huh, I too learned something new today.

My introduction to the AR came 10 years ago when I first got issued a M16 in Basic. One of the first things the Drill Sergeants "stressed" to us was, "You're not allowed to carry your rifle by using the carry handle"!!!

My thought was, "then why the hell is it there"??? Initially I just assumed it was one more way DS's screw with you (like how we were made to carry our weapon at high-ready instead of low-ready during long ruck marches). As time went on I came to assume it was just how Stoner designed the sight setup, not knowing (until now) that the charging handle was originally designed as your picture illustrates.

Thanks for the enlightenment.
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The 'carry handle' was also a fashion thing.

During WW2, infantry spent a lot of time marching on foot, everywhere. Most of that with rifle in hand or slung, sometimes while carrying other stuff. Usually not in a tactical manner, but a "slog from Point A to Point B for 30 miles along this road".

Stoner was a Marine and he'd spent his fair share of time doing so. Most other rifles designed during this time period either had a carry handle or something similar for the same reason. FAL being a good example. Mostly a designer's 'hey, why not?" going by previous experiences and depending on the army asking for it.

Since the AR was going to need higher sights than usual he combined the sights into that first to protect the charging handle, then, just to be useful. Even if practices changed and the 'bugout handle' was no longer used. Only time I've ever used it was carrying 12 M16's at once (three per hand and the rest slung all over me).
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:56   #15
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lots of useful and interesting information. I'm leaning towards just keeping it with the handle and later on the line building a more modern version. I do want to put a rail system on it though. But there are oh so many choices!
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Since the AR was going to need higher sights than usual .
Why? Because the charging lever was originally on top, or some other reason?

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A2 rifles are very easy to secure with a chain or cable through the carry handle.
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A2 rifles are very easy to secure with a chain or cable through the carry handle.



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A2 rifles are very easy to secure with a chain or cable through the carry handle.
Chains and padlocks are only a minor inconvenience to criminals.
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