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Old 10-05-2012, 16:01   #1
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Need help...I'm breaking the bank tomorrow and pulling the trigger......

on either a Sig Sauer P226 or an HK P30 or a USP.....

im not very familiar with HK, but the P30 i fondled last week was SWEET......has a very interesting de-cock location....

can somebody give me some opinions on either brand?????

gonna spend about $1K, so need some advice
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:07   #2
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I can narrow it down to 2 --- P30 or 226. Whichever feels better in your hand is probably what I'd go with.
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:16   #3
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If the 226 is new production i would steer clear. If used and made in Germany, can't do much better!


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Old 10-05-2012, 16:17   #4
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Out of those, I'd go with the P30.
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:37   #5
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so Sig is having QC issues like glock????.......but i am leaning toward the P30
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:41   #6
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so Sig is having QC issues like glock????.......but i am leaning toward the P30
I'm not at all a fan of the new Sigs built in Exeter.
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:42   #7
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on either a Sig Sauer P226 or an HK P30 or a USP.....

im not very familiar with HK, but the P30 i fondled last week was SWEET......has a very interesting de-cock location....

can somebody give me some opinions on either brand?????

gonna spend about $1K, so need some advice
I'd recommend renting all three and find out for yourself.
I can almost guarantee if you shoot all three you will answer your own question with confidence.

I've got a Sig P220/45 and P239/357.
Both DA/SA SRT.
Have owned a HK USP 45 compact.
And also have a HK P30 40 LEM V1.

Personally, If I could only keep one of those,
It would be the HK P30 40 LEM V1.
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Old 10-05-2012, 16:55   #8
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nice barth,......bac do you have any of the older sigs????
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Old 10-05-2012, 17:04   #9
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nice barth,......bac do you have any of the older sigs????
Oh my,
I know where you're going with that one.
My P239 is new.
And the P220 was bought NIB, in 1998, prior to stainless slides.
Mine is factory nickel two tone.

An older classic P220/45 is the best of Sig Sauer to me.
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Old 10-05-2012, 17:13   #10
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You really can't lose with a HK P30.
The only decisions are 9 vs 40 and DA/SA vs LEM.
I can't recommend the LEM enough.
And the HK recoil reduction really works.
The 40 is no problemo at all.

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Old 10-05-2012, 17:23   #11
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barth,

i have read some stuff online that the HK's are kind of oversprung for 9mm and takes some hot loads to get them broke in.....any problems with yours breaking in???
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nice barth,......bac do you have any of the older sigs????
I have a German P220 and a West German P225. They're awesome.

I also have two old Swiss P210s. One is about 20 years old and the other about 60 years old. They're among the best handguns I own.
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Old 10-05-2012, 17:33   #13
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i have read some stuff online that the HK's are kind of oversprung for 9mm and takes some hot loads to get them broke in.....any problems with yours breaking in???
Mine is a 40.
Runs like a fine tuned machine right out of the box.
I have read that about the P30 9mm guns.
It's got a ~$90 captured RSA with a polymer donut that acts like a shock absorber. But the 9mm pup is stiff I guess. But it lasts for a long time. The 9mm P30 seems to need a good number of hot NATO stuff to break them in on.

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I own two newer Sigs, both P226, neither EVER a problem. Closest "problem" I had was hitting the magazine release once when I first got it. Worked my hand position and never a problem again.

It won't cost you 1K either.

Are you buying local or online? Got both mine off GB. Did me better than any local place.

Lots of people talk about the "older Sigs" being so much better than the new. May be true but mine are flawless so don't know how to be better than that, plus they have a rail.

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Old 10-05-2012, 18:21   #15
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I have a new Sig P220 Compact (born in May 2012), made in Exeter.

Never a single malfunction in over 600 rounds fired through it...
Positive brass ejection...
Super high-quality fit and finish...
short-reset trigger....accurate....Did I mention...NO malfunctions in over 600 rounds!
In my opinion, the complaints about Exeter Quality is overblown.....
If it is a Sig you want, do not fear the new ones!
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Old 10-05-2012, 18:25   #16
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I'd go with the H&K.
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Old 10-05-2012, 19:27   #17
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Unless I could shoot all three to decide which felt better and which I shot better, I would probably pick whichever is least expensive. I believe all three are fine pistols.
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Old 10-05-2012, 20:03   #18
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I have a 9mm p2000 lem v2, a usp tactical 9sd and a usp tactical expert 45. I have never shot a p30 but really like all my HKs. The p2000 has replaced my G36 as my favorite ccw and I don't expect that to change anytime soon. I don't currently own a sig but all the ones I have owned have performed well for me but I like HKs better. You can't go wrong with any of your choices.

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I own two newer Sigs, both P226, neither EVER a problem. Closest "problem" I had was hitting the magazine release once when I first got it. Worked my hand position and never a problem again.

It won't cost you 1K either.

Are you buying local or online? Got both mine off GB. Did me better than any local place.

Lots of people talk about the "older Sigs" being so much better than the new. May be true but mine are flawless so don't know how to be better than that, plus they have a rail.

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I have a new Sig P226 Dark Elite. Its been flawless as well, the Elite grips fit like a glove. I actually sold my HK to buy the Sig. Never regretted it for a second. I hear all the talk as well about the old vs new but think like everything else in life you have to decide for yourself. Its great to get opinions, I think that its very very helpful in making a decision on what to buy, but ultimately you have to like how it fits. Personally, I just couldn't stand the rattling of the slide stop on my HK, so I sold it. HK felt great in my hand, was flawless, just couldn't get over the rattle.
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I have a new Sig P226 Dark Elite. Its been flawless as well, the Elite grips fit like a glove. I actually sold my HK to buy the Sig. Never regretted it for a second. I hear all the talk as well about the old vs new but think like everything else in life you have to decide for yourself. Its great to get opinions, I think that its very very helpful in making a decision on what to buy, but ultimately you have to like how it fits. Personally, I just couldn't stand the rattling of the slide stop on my HK, so I sold it. HK felt great in my hand, was flawless, just couldn't get over the rattle.
I've read of folks complaining their P30s rattle.
I bought my P30 40 LEM about six weeks ago.
And have ~800 rounds through the gun.
It's tight as a drum - no rattle.
Maybe the early ones rattle?
Or the 9mm?
Or the DA/SA guns?
My P2K 357 LEM doesn't rattle either.
And neither did my USP 45 Compact DA/SA.

Guess I've just been lucky...

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