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10-12-2012, 00:02
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#226
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Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative, with another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?
Good comparison.
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His point is very simple: Being in the armed services is not a relevant fact; it is just a "heartstrings" puller. It wouldn't matter if Mother Teresa had been on that motorcycle.
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10-12-2012, 15:43
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#227
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Isaiah 53:4-9
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
You're really comparing a Marine who never reached or pulled his pistol and was cooperative, with another service member who pulled a M-1 Carbine out of his truck and engaged an officer?
Good comparison.
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Yup. I am saying, it doesn't matter who they are. Anyone OCing is a potential danger, and a Terry stop is not out of the question. People don't staple their Cariculum Vitae stapled to their foreheads walking around.
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10-12-2012, 16:29
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#228
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Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.
By that reasoning everyone is subject to a Terry Stop because hell in Texas there's a good chance they have a concealed weapon under their shirt.
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10-12-2012, 16:39
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#229
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.
By that reasoning everyone is subject to a Terry Stop because hell in Texas there's a good chance they have a concealed weapon under their shirt.
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Its all in how you are able to articulate your actions. He was openly carrying the weapon in his vehicle, loaded and ready to go.
A kid with a .45 can kill you just as dead. When there is a weapon in play, it is worth taking notice and investigating as necessary.
I remember stopping a vehicle hauling butt out of a known smuggling area with lights out. In the end it ended up being the ranch hand screwing around. But, he had a 12 gauge shotgun on the seat.
I told my partner rather loudly, "Hey, that's a nice shotgun." That way he knew it was there as well.
The guy was clean and we sent him on his way.
Had he been smuggling drugs with that shotgun, it would haven gotten really ugly real fast.
The point? When there are guns in play an abundance of caution is not only prudent, but necessary.
You can do libertarian gymnastics all day long, but when it is your life on the line, I suspect you might look at things a tad bit differently.
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10-12-2012, 17:16
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#230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbandit
Except for the guy wasn't open carrying the M-1 Carbine. It was in his truck and he pulled it out of the truck after he was stopped.
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It seems that you are doing this deliberately. His point is not hard to understand: someone being a veteran doesn't mean a thing in these situations.
There are many people who have worn the uniform -- some with distinction -- who turned out to be horrible people. Case in point, the man in the video with the M1 Carbine.
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10-13-2012, 12:27
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I'm anti-anti
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That is one cool cop and a consummate professional IMO. The open carry activists (read: agitators) are some of the biggest buffoons on the planet..still working from my opinion.
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10-13-2012, 17:03
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#232
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Christ on a cracker! I go away and this thread is still bubbling?
I had better get the popper warned up . . .
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10-13-2012, 17:45
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#233
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God bless that officer for being so patient with those idiots.
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12-01-2012, 11:20
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NOT a victim.
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Originally Posted by MikeNH
God bless that officer for being so patient with those idiots.
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Amen to that.
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12-01-2012, 15:17
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#235
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Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
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That ain't no internet forum, you can't just claim to be a MFer and they send you an official Tshirt and people write 300 page threads about whether you are or aren't. They verify you.
Think twice before you mess with a guy with a shirt that says I am a MFer. That's your only warning. Proceed with caution.
Epic Beard men don't play.
Randy
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12-01-2012, 16:02
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#236
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Location: U.S.A
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I think the cop did his job just fine.
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