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11-19-2012, 12:34
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Originally Posted by ak103k
Lube and LocTite seem to be big issue for some people. I guess they never heard the jingle in the old Brylcreem ads.
Seriously, all you need is a "dab", it doesnt take much.
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Too little lube is something done by a lot of people
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11-19-2012, 12:51
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Originally Posted by Warp
Too little lube is something done by a lot of people
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Very true. Run it wet.
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11-19-2012, 13:08
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Originally Posted by mjkeat
Very true. Run it wet.
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But not too wet. Which is usually what happens. Too wet is just as bad as too dry.
Same goes for LocTite.
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11-19-2012, 13:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ak103k
But not too wet. Which is usually what happens. Too wet is just as bad as too dry.
Same goes for LocTite.
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Nah. Do it Uncle Sam Style: a spray bottle full of Break-Free will fix any jam.
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11-19-2012, 13:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ak103k
But not too wet. Which is usually what happens. Too wet is just as bad as too dry.
Same goes for LocTite.
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What problems will too wet cause?
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11-19-2012, 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ak103k
But not too wet. Which is usually what happens. Too wet is just as bad as too dry.
Same goes for LocTite.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat
What problems will too wet cause?
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This ^
I haven't yet personally experienced a single person having a single problem from too much lube on an AR type rifle. I don't recall reading about even one single person, from verifiable, reliable source, having a problem from too much lube on an AR.
At any rate, too little lube is FAR, FAR more likely to be a problem than too much. If somebody doesn't know how much to use, tell them to err on the side of too much/lots. The BCG is better off dripping wet than dry or even damp/moist.
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11-19-2012, 14:12
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Originally Posted by mjkeat
What problems will too wet cause?
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A mess. Dont want that crap on my shiny new Multicams.
Ive always run my AR's at just above "dry", and never had any issues, even with continuous shooting. Then again, thats probably just a hold over from the old Dri Slide days.
I suppose if you were shooting a lot, and things were slowing down or gunking up, and you couldnt clean it, squirting extra lube into the works could keep things going for a little while, but all that extra lube in there in the first place, more likely contributed to the problem.
Then theres always cold weather.
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11-19-2012, 16:22
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Originally Posted by ak103k
A mess. Dont want that crap on my shiny new Multicams.
Ive always run my AR's at just above "dry", and never had any issues, even with continuous shooting. Then again, thats probably just a hold over from the old Dri Slide days.
I suppose if you were shooting a lot, and things were slowing down or gunking up, and you couldnt clean it, squirting extra lube into the works could keep things going for a little while, but all that extra lube in there in the first place, more likely contributed to the problem.
Then theres always cold weather.
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Yeah, no.
You do however make a good point considering grease type lubricants in cold weather. The grease can harden up in the cold. This will inhibit the cycling of the AR.
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11-19-2012, 16:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ak103k
A mess. Dont want that crap on my shiny new Multicams.
Ive always run my AR's at just above "dry", and never had any issues, even with continuous shooting. Then again, thats probably just a hold over from the old Dri Slide days.
I suppose if you were shooting a lot, and things were slowing down or gunking up, and you couldnt clean it, squirting extra lube into the works could keep things going for a little while, but all that extra lube in there in the first place, more likely contributed to the problem.
Then theres always cold weather.
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I have yet to read anybody say this with any factual basis. People seem to just make it up and start saying it, just because.
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11-19-2012, 16:25
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i don't have any optics, but, i don't feel i need them. plain old never needs batteries carry handle sights work fine for me.
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11-19-2012, 16:26
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I think I'll replace my Aimpoint PRO with a Trijicon TR24G.
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11-19-2012, 17:34
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I always run my AR’s dripping wet. After the first shot, I always keep a clean towel next to me to clean of my glasses. I have never had an issue with it.
Of course, I don’t live in a windy desert either. I could see that as being a regional thing.
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11-19-2012, 18:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
I think I'll replace my Aimpoint PRO with a Trijicon TR24G.
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Is the PRO in good shape? I want to buy one....... DOC
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11-19-2012, 20:50
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Originally Posted by scccdoc
Is the PRO in good shape? I want to buy one....... DOC
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It is in perfect shape.
Buuut it will probably go to my dad when I get the variable scope.
Keep your eye out for all manner of black friday and cyber monday sales. I'll bet they pop up somewhere. The PRO is an excellent optic. I just want a little more precision capability/target identification, and my astigmatism/whatever doesn't agree very well with the dot.
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11-20-2012, 04:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
It is in perfect shape.
Buuut it will probably go to my dad when I get the variable scope.
Keep your eye out for all manner of black friday and cyber monday sales. I'll bet they pop up somewhere. The PRO is an excellent optic. I just want a little more precision capability/target identification, and my astigmatism/whatever doesn't agree very well with the dot.
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My astigmatism doesn't either have to be wearing my glasses in order for my red dot to be clear anymore.
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11-20-2012, 06:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
It is in perfect shape.
Buuut it will probably go to my dad when I get the variable scope.
Keep your eye out for all manner of black friday and cyber monday sales. I'll bet they pop up somewhere. The PRO is an excellent optic. I just want a little more precision capability/target identification, and my astigmatism/whatever doesn't agree very well with the dot.
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Thanks, best of luck with the tritium!
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11-21-2012, 04:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
I think I'll replace my Aimpoint PRO with a Trijicon TR24G.
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Is that the one with the fiber optic window on top.
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11-21-2012, 10:27
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Originally Posted by TangoFoxtrot
Is that the one with the fiber optic window on top.
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Yes. Fiber optic and tritium. 1-4x.
I would get the green triangle (TR24G) version.
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11-22-2012, 05:56
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I like the variable power 1X4. I dislike fixed power optics on my AR.
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11-22-2012, 16:45
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I started shooting iron sight when I was shooting Highpower. I have to have them on anything I buy from a 20" Hbar, to a M4 type Carbine. I know I hit a man sized target out to 600 yards with irons pretty easily.
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11-23-2012, 03:26
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Jason you must have young eyes!
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11-23-2012, 16:42
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For now, yes. Since I am only 34.
I played with reddots on pistols a bit but never took to them.
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11-24-2012, 02:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
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I haven't yet personally experienced a single person having a single problem from too much lube on an AR type rifle. I don't recall reading about even one single person, from verifiable, reliable source, having a problem from too much lube on an AR.
At any rate, too little lube is FAR, FAR more likely to be a problem than too much. If somebody doesn't know how much to use, tell them to err on the side of too much/lots. The BCG is better off dripping wet than dry or even damp/moist.
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I've personally had problems with too much lube. Ft Sill Oklahoma. Red clay dried to a fine powder. Stick and clumps to any moisture. All kinds of havoc ensues.
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11-24-2012, 04:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwreck
I've personally had problems with too much lube. Ft Sill Oklahoma. Red clay dried to a fine powder. Stick and clumps to any moisture. All kinds of havoc ensues.
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I agree! In Iraq I used graphite powder on my BCG so the sand didn't stick to wet oil...but it made a mess at times.
Last edited by TangoFoxtrot; 11-24-2012 at 04:43..
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11-24-2012, 07:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwreck
I've personally had problems with too much lube. Ft Sill Oklahoma. Red clay dried to a fine powder. Stick and clumps to any moisture. All kinds of havoc ensues.
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I grind my clay to the consistency of cat litter to avoid this issue.
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