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10-07-2012, 22:40
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Romney does not currently support an AWB. By your reasoning we shouldn't have voted for Reagan since he used to be a Democrat.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...rearms-freedom
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10-07-2012, 22:49
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frank4570
Then stay home and don't vote! Nice video of then GOV Rommney!
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10-07-2012, 23:28
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Oh this is killing me. I have heard too many people say "I would vote Libertarian but_____." If not now then when? I think we're making too many concessions with these 2 parties. I really don't get how people are buying that Romney's saying he's "Pro-gun" nowadays. I'm calling BS on that one.
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10-07-2012, 23:33
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Originally Posted by alabaster
Oh this is killing me. I have heard too many people say "I would vote Libertarian but_____." If not now then when? I think we're making too many concessions with these 2 parties. I really don't get how people are buying that Romney's saying he's "Pro-gun" nowadays. I'm calling BS on that one.
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I have voted 3rd party in the past but never again. the whole concept has been taken over by muddleheaded twits that stand no chance of being elected and drooling followers who's wild-eyed look scares rational people.
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10-08-2012, 05:31
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Originally Posted by frank4570
I just want to make sure this is absolutely clear.
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Thanks, Frank. In this and many other threads you've made it abundantly clear that if Republicans don't choose Ron Paul you'll vote for Obama.
I think we got it. Too bad you guys didn't choose holding your breath until you turn blue as your childish tantrum instead.
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10-08-2012, 05:56
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Originally Posted by frank4570
It will always be "THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF ALL TIME." Every time.
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No, it won't.
I've never felt my way of life was threatened as I do by Obama.
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10-08-2012, 06:03
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
Romney is still a better choice than Obama.

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Yep - even with him saying that, he's a much better and safer choice for guns than Obama.
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10-08-2012, 06:04
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Romney is from Mass and Obama from Chicago. 2 of the strictest gun law states in the nation.
I'm just saying...
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10-08-2012, 06:24
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Where's my EBT?
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Originally Posted by jdavionic
Contrast that with Obama who has tried to backdoor restricting gun rights with his EPA nazis...
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Please explain the connection between the EPA and our 2A rights.
Thanks!
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10-08-2012, 06:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eracer
Please explain the connection between the EPA and our 2A rights.
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They both have A in them.
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10-08-2012, 06:50
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I don't believe Romney currently supports a new AWB. That video is quite old. If someone has info to the contrary please post.
Regardless, who do you want appointing the next Supreme Court justice, Romney or Obama? That's what it comes down to.
Last edited by cowboy1964; 10-08-2012 at 06:51..
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10-08-2012, 06:57
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Saying it and doing it are two different things. Just look at Obama.
Although saying it is smart. That will get the Dems to work with him on other things, knowing that a Rep house will never send out such a bill. LOL
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10-08-2012, 07:12
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Originally Posted by FFR Spyder GT
Part of the core "Fundamental Beliefs" of the Mormon Cult is to be armed and to unarm your enemy, which, like the Muslims is anyone that isn't part of your Cult.
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Wow -- and here, I thought your opinion that Zero won last Wednesday's debate was the stupidest thing you've ever said...
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Originally Posted by FFR Spyder GT
I guess y'all watched a different debate than the rest of the world watched.
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10-08-2012, 07:18
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Frank has previously posted that he doesn't follow the news. In a perfect world, those who don't know the issues wouldn't be allowed to vote.
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10-08-2012, 07:26
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Interestingly, the NRA had endorsed Romney and Ryan. I doubt they'd do that if he wanted to ban assault rifles.
Additionally, Mormons are so pro gun that Utah has even declared an official state gun. Romney banning assault rifles would be counter to his identity.
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10-08-2012, 07:43
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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass
Third parties may get more votes if they put forth good candidates, most third party candidates suck.
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Show me a candidate that will phase out most of welfare and replace it with workfare. What is left should be a basic sustenance level, with nothing left over for nice rimz on the escalade, smartphones or cable TV.
Phase out food stamps and replace that with soup kitchens.
Audit all of the ambulatory disabled, and put the healthy back to work.
Come up with a secure version of e-verify, and prosecute the hell out of employers that hire illegals, fine companies 100 times the profit they could have made hiring illegals. Make it personally risky and financial suicide to participate in the hiring of illegal aliens. Cut off all social support for illegals, including education benefits, food stamps and welfare. They will self deport.
Dial back some of the stupid gun regulations, like the need for anything special to own or make a suppressor, SBR, front grip on a pistol etc.
National reciprocity, or a national carry license. (I know, why should we need a license, but look how many ignorant people learned something in your last CHL renewal class, until the education system catches up with mandatory firearms training beginning in Junior High, including when you can and cannot use them, we need something)
Cut military spending 20% while making it a much more lethal force, which is very possible. Build the neutron bomb. Build a few of them in fact. Boots on the ground are sometimes needed, but we really need to stop rebuilding our enemies. If we are forced into a fight, we should break them, and leave them for their neighbors to pick the burnt carcass apart.
I haven't met that candidate yet. Someone give me a call if you run into him/her.
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10-08-2012, 07:47
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Originally Posted by domin8ss
Interestingly, the NRA had endorsed Romney and Ryan. I doubt they'd do that if he wanted to ban assault rifles.
Additionally, Mormons are so pro gun that Utah has even declared an official state gun. Romney banning assault rifles would be counter to his identity.
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He's not from Utah. He's a Massachusetts liberal. That being said, a Liberal in his first term is much more desirable than a socialist/fascist in their second/last term, especially this one.....
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10-08-2012, 08:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eracer
Please explain the connection between the EPA and our 2A rights.
Thanks!
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Banning lead, which makes ammo expensive.
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10-08-2012, 08:50
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Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc
This
Show me a candidate that will phase out most of welfare and replace it with workfare. What is left should be a basic sustenance level, with nothing left over for nice rimz on the escalade, smartphones or cable TV.
Phase out food stamps and replace that with soup kitchens.
Audit all of the ambulatory disabled, and put the healthy back to work.
Come up with a secure version of e-verify, and prosecute the hell out of employers that hire illegals, fine companies 100 times the profit they could have made hiring illegals. Make it personally risky and financial suicide to participate in the hiring of illegal aliens. Cut off all social support for illegals, including education benefits, food stamps and welfare. They will self deport.
Dial back some of the stupid gun regulations, like the need for anything special to own or make a suppressor, SBR, front grip on a pistol etc.
National reciprocity, or a national carry license. (I know, why should we need a license, but look how many ignorant people learned something in your last CHL renewal class, until the education system catches up with mandatory firearms training beginning in Junior High, including when you can and cannot use them, we need something)
Cut military spending 20% while making it a much more lethal force, which is very possible. Build the neutron bomb. Build a few of them in fact. Boots on the ground are sometimes needed, but we really need to stop rebuilding our enemies. If we are forced into a fight, we should break them, and leave them for their neighbors to pick the burnt carcass apart.
I haven't met that candidate yet. Someone give me a call if you run into him/her.
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I approve of this plan...
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10-08-2012, 08:52
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Originally Posted by sheriff733
No, it won't.
I've never felt my way of life was threatened as I do by Obama.
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Yep, and when the liberals become more and more socialist, each election is more important than the previous.
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10-08-2012, 09:22
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Here is my prediction to the Ron Paul sore losers. After the election, nobody will be talking about Ron Paul except you guys on this forum.
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10-08-2012, 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR Spyder GT
Part of the core "Fundamental Beliefs" of the Mormon Cult is to be armed and to unarm your enemy, which, like the Muslims is anyone that isn't part of your Cult.
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You'll have to do better than that. I'll still take the Mormon over a Marxist, or a Muslim... or any Black Liberation Theology bastardized combination of the two.
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10-08-2012, 10:23
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Originally Posted by frank4570
I just want to make sure this is absolutely clear.
Romney says if he is elected he will sign an assault weapons ban if one is brought to him. Just like george bush said he would. The republican party is not really pro-second amendment. The guy who is in favor of an assault weapons ban is the guy who will be picking supreme court justices.
Better than the dems? Sure, but not much.
I'll be voting for a guy and party that does not really support the second amendment.
I wish people would stop pretending republicans are pro-second amendment.
Romney supports assault weapons ban? - YouTube
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Frank, Frank, Frank, do yourself a big favor and research the anti-second amendment bills presented to congress for the past sixty years and note the authors- particularly note the PARTY affiliation of the authors of those anti-second amendment bills. Heck, you might even duplicate your findings if looking at state bills.
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10-08-2012, 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570
I just want to make sure this is absolutely clear.
Romney says if he is elected he will sign an assault weapons ban if one is brought to him. Just like george bush said he would. The republican party is not really pro-second amendment. The guy who is in favor of an assault weapons ban is the guy who will be picking supreme court justices.
Better than the dems? Sure, but not much.
I'll be voting for a guy and party that does not really support the second amendment.
I wish people would stop pretending republicans are pro-second amendment.
Romney supports assault weapons ban? - YouTube
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0.5%
That is all.
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10-08-2012, 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4570
I just want to make sure this is absolutely clear.
Romney says if he is elected he will sign an assault weapons ban if one is brought to him. Just like george bush said he would. The republican party is not really pro-second amendment. The guy who is in favor of an assault weapons ban is the guy who will be picking supreme court justices.
Better than the dems? Sure, but not much.
I'll be voting for a guy and party that does not really support the second amendment.
I wish people would stop pretending republicans are pro-second amendment.
Romney supports assault weapons ban? - YouTube
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Obama. Second amendment rights champion. Yeah.
 
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