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Old 10-08-2012, 06:02   #26
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IMHO, your POTUS vote matters far less than your Congressional vote this year. Let's face it; both D and R Pres candidates are simply designed-by-commitee to garner votes, not lead a country. It's congress that keeps them in check.

Vote defensively for POTUS, and offensively for everything else.

BTW...welcome to the Libertarian party.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:04   #27
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:07   #28
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Easy - you're a pro-choice Republican.
Well seems like abortion is a big point of the R party.
There's other things of that party im against such as the entire foreign policy. Our military should be used to protect our boarders. Not go peace keep around the 3rd world.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:08   #29
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I think we both interpreted his post differently

See what i mean?
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Libertarians are just refusing to participate or accept blame.
I don't know how that could be interpreted differently by any number of rational individuals.

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Old 10-08-2012, 06:11   #30
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In my opinion a criminal who is out after his third or fourth robbery or maybe even assault is not the best candidate to have a gun. Not that the law itself keeps him from getting one, but to caught for something lesser leading to the discovery of a firearm possibly putting them away longer is all I am saying.
And that's why I supporter harsher sentences for applicable crimes, as well.

Somebody being released 3-4 times on violent crimes blows my mind... makes me want to pull my hair out every time I see one of our "frequent flyers" out and about, knowing that it's just a matter of time before they twist off on somebody else, only to be released to do it again later in the future.

But, that's just the nature of the beast... I do my job and make sure they get their day in court. After that, it's out of my hands, but at least I can sleep at night knowing that I did my part.



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Old 10-08-2012, 06:11   #31
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Being in the spirit of election season, I can't really see there's a political party i really fit into so maybe y'all can figure out where I should be.

I'm against any gun laws & pro choice on abortion which seems to DQ me from the two parties.

against 3rd generation welfare queens, well really any welfare at all. Against foodstamps unless it's a short term thing like a brief run at unemployment.

I'm against "The war on drugs" as well. Feel they should legalize and tax it. let people kill themselves as they see fit.

Also believe any man who's not in prison should have the right to vote and own firearms. Be that a convicted felon or a kid in highschool. I don't believe in ANY gun laws at all, think the govt should be allowing drilling all over the country and keeping us away from our dependance on arabs.

Is there anything i fit into? I'm sure I can't be the only guy that doesn't fit into parties.
You and I pretty much have the same beliefs. I consider myself Libertarian but vote Republican. I'm guessing in two or three more election cycles, The Libertarians might stand a chance.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:15   #32
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I don't know how that could be interpreted differently by any number of rational individuals.

I was going off his post as a whole, not just singling out one part of it.



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Old 10-08-2012, 06:23   #33
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And that's why I supporter harsher sentences for applicable crimes, as well.

Somebody being released 3-4 times on violent crimes blows my mind

I work in a super max prison, we have plenty of repeat crooks going to parole to get their green sheets to get out again
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:25   #34
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I was going off his post as a whole, not just singling out one part of it.



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So the whole is greater than the sum of the parts?
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:39   #35
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So the whole is greater than the sum of the parts?
The sum of the whole is greater than it's parts.

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Old 10-08-2012, 23:40   #36
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Honestly you're an old school liberal Republican or conservative Democrat. Think Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy, or any of the real Presidents we used to have. Before the political parties decided they needed to cater to the fringe elements of the parties for the money.

These days I would call you a moderate. So vote the issues, not a party line. Vote for whoever seems to support your positions and go from there.

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Old 10-08-2012, 23:47   #37
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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

You got a selective memory. Ralph Nader helped get Bush elected in 2000 by dividing the progressive vote.
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Old 10-08-2012, 23:52   #38
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You and I pretty much have the same beliefs. I consider myself Libertarian but vote Republican. I'm guessing in two or three more election cycles, The Libertarians might stand a chance.
Get active in the Libertarian Party and get candidates to run for State office.

Win some state offices, become a presence and you might begin to see viable candidates run for national office.
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Old 10-08-2012, 23:58   #39
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This is of course my opinion and by no means am I trying to sway the opinions of others.
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And that's why I supporter harsher sentences for applicable crimes, as well.

Somebody being released 3-4 times on violent crimes blows my mind... makes me want to pull my hair out every time I see one of our "frequent flyers" out and about, knowing that it's just a matter of time before they twist off on somebody else, only to be released to do it again later in the future.

But, that's just the nature of the beast... I do my job and make sure they get their day in court. After that, it's out of my hands, but at least I can sleep at night knowing that I did my part.



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I appreciate all law enforcement doing their jobs. As I said I am absolutely for stronger penalties where warranted crimes of violence, in the absence of this happening I support a "career felon" being denied the right to bear arms. Again it won't stop them from getting them, but gives the chance to lock them back up before they are able to commit further violence. I support the idea of establishing reasonable universal rules for the restoration of rights.

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Old 10-09-2012, 00:04   #40
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I think you should be able to walk into a store, grab a pair of full auto MP5s, 1k rounds and a pack of beef jerky without having to do more than pay and show ID to prove your an American. Ex con or not shouldnt be a factor IMO.
No beef jerky for ex cons! America - love it or leave it!
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Old 10-09-2012, 00:12   #41
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In general, you fall closest to classical liberalism. Not a perfect match but close enough.

A lot of people here tend to trend towards classical liberalism. They have never bothered to look it up so they just hear "liberalism" and think "NO WAY, NOT ME...." I consider myself, in general, in the camp of classical liberalism.

Of course, even here, a lot of people trend socialistic as well. They want a lot of freedom but really dont understand economics very well.

The current republican party is pretty close to what used to be called "southern democrats" the religious right has done that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:21   #42
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The Supreme Court is one of the most important decision that will come out of this election. Elect Obama and the Court will be full of progressives for the next twenty years.
Elect Romney and the court will be full of big government moralists for the next twenty years. Yep, it's a difference, it's just not an improvement.

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Old 10-09-2012, 06:46   #43
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This about sums it up! We know who the Freeloaders are voting for and until they are not allowed to vote, you better hang with us. The choice is Socialism or Mitt. I'm not a Mitt fan but just tired of feeding the tapeworms and breeders that turn into criminals because they get bored sitting around. Yes its's a pretty wide brush but 47% is just nuts and a real number.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:53   #44
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Obama's reelection means that we get three more liberal activist judges on the supreme court.
How in the hell do you come up with that?

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How in the hell do you come up with that?
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:11   #46
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My advice? Pick which issues matter to you the most. You've made it pretty clear that you want the right to own firearms. You've also said you want women to continue to have the right to have abortions. Surely you can figure for yourself whether you think Obama will be successful in more restrictive gun laws or if Romney will be successful in restricting abortions. Don't worry about supporting one party or the other. Pick the one (or 5) issues that matter the most to you and figure out for yourself which positions the candidates will actually try to do something about in the next 4 years.
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Old 10-10-2012, 21:24   #47
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You're libertarian. They never make the ballet so just vote "R" for all your homies on GT
I would agree. I support mandatory abortion and gun rights. But I also support deportation of illegals.
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Old 10-10-2012, 21:31   #48
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For someone that's libertarian, this is really no worse than Romney winning. I'm not sure why people make this argument.

"If you vote for who YOU want to be president, then MY guy won't win."

Yeah, well, it's my vote.
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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

That what "They" want you to think....They caint be that stupid...

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Well seems like abortion is a big point of the R party.
There's other things of that party im against such as the entire foreign policy. Our military should be used to protect our boarders. Not go peace keep around the 3rd world.
Al Qaida did not come from Mexico. Their leadership were guests of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. But I suppose you may be a "Truther".

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