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Old 10-11-2012, 06:23   #51
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For someone that's libertarian, this is really no worse than Romney winning. I'm not sure why people make this argument.

"If you vote for who YOU want to be president, then MY guy won't win."

Yeah, well, it's my vote.

Your guy is Obama and so you are here to encourage gunowners to divide their votes on third party candidates.

Reelecting Obama, getting more liberal activist judges on the supreme court to destroy the 2nd Amendment, and getting new gun control bills passed into law. We know damn well that's your vote.

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Old 10-11-2012, 08:09   #52
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Well seems like abortion is a big point of the R party.
There's other things of that party im against such as the entire foreign policy. Our military should be used to protect our boarders. Not go peace keep around the 3rd world.
What would you have done in WW2?
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:21   #53
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The real question is; Why are you intent on negating you significane in this world? Blindly identifying yourself with externalities does this. Why are you so eager to lose your identity as a person and become part of some voting "block"?
No. The real question is: Why do you refuse to be a sheep...a part of the herd?

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Old 10-11-2012, 08:29   #54
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Not really... each person chooses the candidate/party which supports the same "liberties" as they do. The division is caused by what each person/party considers "liberty".

The constitution, regardless of how simple and clear it's worded, is similar to the bible in the aspect that each party (D)/(R) can both read the exact same writing, and have different interpretations of what it means.

Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".
And "each person chooses the candidate/party which supports the same" suppression of liberties "as they do.", which is most definitely not libertarian, so...
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:36   #55
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The sum of the whole is greater than it's parts.

Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".
It's the 'hole'.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:41   #56
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In general, you fall closest to classical liberalism. Not a perfect match but close enough.

A lot of people here tend to trend towards classical liberalism. They have never bothered to look it up so they just hear "liberalism" and think "NO WAY, NOT ME...." I consider myself, in general, in the camp of classical liberalism.

Of course, even here, a lot of people trend socialistic as well. They want a lot of freedom but really dont understand economics very well.

The current republican party is pretty close to what used to be called "southern democrats" the religious right has done that.
"southern democrats": The worst of both worlds!
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How in the hell do you come up with that?
As Dubya said: "Political Capital". If they win a second term, they assume it's 'carte blanche'.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:01   #58
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You pick the party closest to your most important beliefs, then work to persuade them regarding the rest of your beliefs.

In the process, be prepared to have your own beliefs challenged, and perhaps to even learn a thing or two as you mature.

Always try to make the best possible choice, even if you can't get everything you want all of the time.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:05   #59
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That's very nice that you care about constitution and freedom and other quaint ideas. You are definite libertarian. But you will need to chose either to vote in favor of wealth distribution or christian laws.


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Being in the spirit of election season, I can't really see there's a political party i really fit into so maybe y'all can figure out where I should be.

I'm against any gun laws & pro choice on abortion which seems to DQ me from the two parties.

against 3rd generation welfare queens, well really any welfare at all. Against foodstamps unless it's a short term thing like a brief run at unemployment.

I'm against "The war on drugs" as well. Feel they should legalize and tax it. let people kill themselves as they see fit.

Also believe any man who's not in prison should have the right to vote and own firearms. Be that a convicted felon or a kid in highschool. I don't believe in ANY gun laws at all, think the govt should be allowing drilling all over the country and keeping us away from our dependance on arabs.

Is there anything i fit into? I'm sure I can't be the only guy that doesn't fit into parties.
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That's very nice that you care about constitution and freedom and other quaint ideas. You are definite libertarian. But you will need to chose either to vote in favor of wealth distribution or christian laws.
Way to bum somebody out.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:57   #61
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Your guy is Obama and so you are here to encourage gunowners to divide their votes on third party candidates.

Reelecting Obama, getting more liberal activist judges on the supreme court to destroy the 2nd Amendment, and getting new gun control bills passed into law. We know damn well that's your vote.
That's me. I've spent untold hours posting on gun forums for the past 10 years or so, taken pictures of my fake gun collection and posted it online etc all so that I could post in this one thread about political parties a month before the election and get Obama elected by telling people to vote for the best candidate, not the best candidate of the 2 major political parties! My plan is finally being realized!

Seriously though...get your tin foil hat off long enough to understand that if you were put into an underground bunker for the next 4 years with no connection to the outside world, when you reconnect to the outside world and learn of what is going on politically in 2016, you would not even be able to tell if it was Romney or Obama that was elected without being told explicitly, They are mostly the same with a few different talking points. Neither are going to bring the real change that we need.
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...Is there anything i fit into? I'm sure I can't be the only guy that doesn't fit into parties.
Why settle?

We need more people who are willing to register to vote with "no party affiliation."

You are free to vote your conscience, and you tell all the parties that they do not represent you just because of some label.
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:11   #63
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What would you have done in WW2?
Left Japan alone in the '30s.
Not gotten into the second phase of the European Civil War.
(Actually we never should have gotten involved in the Great War)

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Old 10-11-2012, 19:14   #64
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Nuked Tokyo instead of Nagasaki
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:21   #65
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Why settle?

We need more people who are willing to register to vote with "no party affiliation."

You are free to vote your conscience, and you tell all the parties that they do not represent you just because of some label.
I think that makes 7 of us total. If we want freedom and the constitution, we may have to move.
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:26   #66
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fit.
Is there anything i fit into? .
you are special.
sit at home.
don't vote.
you are permitted to whine;
why the future is not your special.
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:32   #67
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you are special.

why the future is not your special.
Have you been drinking, or is this normal for you?
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:42   #68
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I think that makes 7 of us total. If we want freedom and the constitution, we may have to move.
but um... isn't it the US Constitution?

Seems simple enough.
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