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Old 10-08-2012, 13:38   #26
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That tends to happen when numbers get exponentially larger. He's not the first to do that. Reagan and GWB did it and I didn't see anybody catching a clue at that time.
So you are admitting that Obama hasn't even tried?
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Old 10-08-2012, 13:48   #27
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So you are admitting that Obama hasn't even tried?
Yeah, of course he hasn't. Do you think Romney will? Do you think wanting to arm Syrian rebels is indicative of somebody who will?

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Old 10-08-2012, 13:55   #28
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Yeah, of course he hasn't. Do you think Romney will? Do you think wanting to arm Syrian rebels is indicative of somebody who will?
Let me think about it,


Hmmm.....One guy flaunts the fact that he hasn't and keeps spinning us firther in debt,

another guy says he wants to stop that spiral.

which should I vote for..............Hmmmm.

Gee the logic of voting for the guy who has made it worse and doesn't have anything close to a plan to stop it is so inescapable.......
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:01   #29
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Let me think about it,


Hmmm.....One guy flaunts the fact that he hasn't and keeps spinning us firther in debt,

another guy says he wants to stop that spiral.

which should I vote for..............Hmmmm.

Gee the logic of voting for the guy who has made it worse and doesn't have anything close to a plan to stop it is so inescapable.......
I'm sure if I tried hard enough, I could find a clip of Obama saying he will do something about the deficit.

That will put him on equal footing as Romney then, right?

Because even though nothing about either Romney's or Obama's records suggest they'd improve the deficit situation, Romney saying he will do something is more credible than Obama saying he will do something. Do I have that right?
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:21   #30
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I'm sure if I tried hard enough, I could find a clip of Obama saying he will do something about the deficit.

That will put him on equal footing as Romney then, right?

Because even though nothing about either Romney's or Obama's records suggest they'd improve the deficit situation, Romney saying he will do something is more credible than Obama saying he will do something. Do I have that right?
HAhahahahaha

Willfully ignore Romney's economic record and business expreience and try to claim that Obama is his equal in management.



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Old 10-08-2012, 14:44   #31
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Shouldn't we pay down the national debt first?
Have you seen war footage from over there? A few million dollar's worth of rifles, ammo, and surplus LAW's could go a long long way. Better than getting dragged into a war over there alongside Turkey that could cost as much as a billion dollars a day.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:47   #32
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Stupid. There is very little we can do about situation in Syria. Neither side is "good" and whoever wins, we lose. Sitting out is best choice between all the choices we have.
At least Romney, unlike McCain, seems to be aware of the Muslim Brotherhood's extremist history and its ties to Zawahiri and OBL.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:48   #33
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We tried that several times already. The guy that replaces him raises it even more.

Of course, "this time" will be different, right?
In case you haven't noticed, it's always been different. History is similar, but it is never exactly the same. Being able to discern the differences is an important and useful skill that many don't have.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:51   #34
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We can pay off our debt by selling captured Middle East oil fields, seizing the multi-billion dollar bank accounts of anti-American trouble makers who fund terrorist groups, and by charging other countries when we free them from Islamic domination.

War can be very profitable.

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Colonialism? I think we would get some international resistance on that.
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Old 10-08-2012, 14:54   #35
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Id like to see you go first.

Clearly we've become a nation of pacifist intellectuals.
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Have you seen war footage from over there? A few million dollar's worth of rifles, ammo, and surplus LAW's could go a long long way. Better than getting dragged into a war over there alongside Turkey that could cost as much as a billion dollars a day.
Let Turkey go it alone. We couldn't even transport troops through their country when we invaded Iraq.
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Let Turkey go it alone. We couldn't even transport troops through their country when we invaded Iraq.
Awwwww hell. We agree on something. Turkey should be left on their own. Just to learn "that" lesson.
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Old 10-08-2012, 15:12   #38
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Awwwww hell. We agree on something. Turkey should be left on their own. Just to learn "that" lesson.
Yup. The blind hog found an acorn.
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Somebody should let Mitt in on the fact that we've already been arming them.

Don't let the facts get in the way of some good ol' red meat rhetoric.
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Old 10-08-2012, 16:48   #40
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Then kill them.

Problem solved.
Why wait?
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Let Turkey go it alone. We couldn't even transport troops through their country when we invaded Iraq.
They're part of NATO, we wouldn't have much of a choice if they ask for our assistance.
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We can pay off our debt by selling captured Middle East oil fields, seizing the multi-billion dollar bank accounts of anti-American trouble makers who fund terrorist groups, and by charging other countries when we free them from Islamic domination.

War can be very profitable.

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Certainly there is a way to make this work.


Nuke their ass, and TAKE their gas! Selling it away to a low, fast bidder is the American way.
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Old 10-08-2012, 18:25   #43
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Supplying arms...within reason, I have no issues. Assad as been a PITA for us and others. I think a little payback is justified.
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They're part of NATO, we wouldn't have much of a choice if they ask for our assistance.
Then why didn't they have to cooperate with us when we invaded Iraq?
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Then why didn't they have to cooperate with us when we invaded Iraq?
That was under a UN resolution, not a NATO resolution. Good question though. Seems it's "flexible" whenever they deem it so.

Can you imagine if Turkey had gone hot with Israel over the Gaza aid boat incident? Oh the neocon exploding heads all around....
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Old 10-08-2012, 18:53   #46
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id say give small arms and such and let em slaughter each other. No sams or anything, we want our planes to annihale the winner easily
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Old 10-08-2012, 19:16   #47
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Then why didn't they have to cooperate with us when we invaded Iraq?
It's a mutual defense setup not mutual offense, unless there's a NATO resolution. Even then, countries can be exempted if deemed necessary. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm no fan of Turkey, particularly since it's been quietly radicalizing for the past few years and is probably going to be a problem in the near future.
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It's a mutual defense setup not mutual offense, unless there's a NATO resolution. Even then, countries can be exempted if deemed necessary. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm no fan of Turkey, particularly since it's been quietly radicalizing for the past few years and is probably going to be a problem in the near future.
So we could sit it out and let Turkey deal with it.
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a different take on an age old question: If Syria attacks Turkey from the rear, will Greece help?
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Old 10-08-2012, 20:09   #50
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Arm the rebels just enough to match Iranian and Russian armament, but stay out of there. .
Mr. brilliant diplomat, what would you say, (if russians, after watching this intrusion in their area, would start support, for example, mexican rebels, or whoever around the USA), except: "You not suppose to do it to us, it's not fare!"
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