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Old 10-11-2012, 11:29   #21
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You give the man a lot of credit for being able to accomplish things. What is that based on?

He barely squeaked Obamacare by when democrats had full control of congress. His next most egregious accomplishment was "amnesty" by refusing to enforce part of immigration law.

He doesn't have congress anymore, and how is he going to gut the 2A by executive order? The more laws Obama (or any administration) refuses to enforce, the better IMO.
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If he was smart, aggressive, and competent I would agree.

He is none of those things.


So you argue in this thread that he is completely ineffective (and you wouldn't be the first to compare him to Jimmy Carter). Yet you also seem to be an Obama supporter in other threads. Do you just want to vote for the black guy, or what? Brucev, is that you changing sides again?
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:33   #22
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The Republican congress is going to propose gun legislation if Obama wins? Obama will nominate up to six SC justices during his eight years?

Who exactly are you attempting to frighten with these random unsubstantiated rants?
Why does he need 6? We were only 1 vote away from losing the entire second amendment when they voted on Heller. Having him nominate/appoint 1 is plenty.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:07   #23
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Bump because it is important issue for the election.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:52   #24
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Gee, I was just at the real "official" White House website and couldn't find the statement that the OP posted. Here's a link to the real "official" White House website......
http://www.whitehouse.gov/?d=w
Maybe someone can find the "story" that the OP was talking about and poi t it out for me.
If you go to the http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda website that the OP quoted, then scroll to the bottom, and select ABOUT THIS SITE/CONTACT. you get this:
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Thank you for your interest in contacting us. Starting on the afternoon of January 20th, we encourage you to visit the Contact page at WhiteHouse.gov.
All postal mail should now be sent to:
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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:58   #25
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You are right Gundude. Four US Supreme Court Justices (Scalia, Kennedy, Breyer and Ginsburg) will be 80 or older, and two, Thomas and Alito above 65, by the end of Obama's second term. He could likely appoint up to 6 more Justices if he is re-elected - all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come. An anti-2A Court would be free to re-define and dismantle the RKBA out of existence. The current anti-2A Justices have already stated their intention to do exactly that.

Obama appointed anti-Second Amendment Justices, Sotomayor and Kagan. Given the opportunity he will do it again. All they need is one more like minded Justice to get a majority of five anti’s and implement their stated agenda through the courts.

If that happens we’ll never see a pro-RKBA victory again in our lifetime.

There are already more RKBA cases headed to the Supreme Court involving the private right of armed self-defense outside the home and the heavy restrictions in places like Chicago and Washington DC.

Notice how Obama supporters like Gundude and Spyder do not dispute or defend Obama awful record?
Of course I don't defend Obama's record. Trying to defend an indefensible record on gun control would make someone look like an idiot, wouldn't it? Look in the mirror real quick

Less idiotic would be to admit that the person who is going to win in November has an anti-2A record, and vote for congresscritters who won't send a gun ban to him.

Less idiotic still would be to refrain from suggesting Alito might retire after less than 10 years on the bench. Justices time their retirements to maintain the balance of the court. That's realty. The only way that'd change is if they're incapable of holding out due to health reasons. The only one who will be older than 80 during Obama's term is Ginsburg, and Obama replacing her won't change a thing.

Breyer will not turn 80 before Obama is gone, that's flat out wrong. Scalia and Kennedy will only turn 80 in Obama's last year. And Ginsburg is a liberal.

Your "four" justices is down to maybe 1 liberal. Throwing in Thomas and Alito just shows how desperate you are.

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Old 10-11-2012, 13:22   #26
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As Obama supporters you and Spyder must really like Obama's record of:


I bet Gundude and Spyder can't wait what he'll do if he gets a second term.

It's up to gun owners to make sure we are not scammed into giving Romney a term in office. .
I'm not an Obama supporter. Plus I fixed your post.


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If you go to the http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda website that the OP quoted, then scroll to the bottom, and select ABOUT THIS SITE/CONTACT. you get this:
This link does NOT take you to the real "official" White House website.
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Old 10-11-2012, 13:29   #27
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Why does he need 6? We were only 1 vote away from losing the entire second amendment when they voted on Heller. Having him nominate/appoint 1 is plenty.
... unless the one he's replacing is one who voted against Heller, in which case it won't change a thing.

I'd rather Scalia's, Kennedy's, and Breyer's replacements get appointed by the person who comes after Obama in 2017 rather than by Romney. Who knows, that person might actually be pro-2A.

If Romney gets in we won't have the possibility of a pro-2A prez until at least 2021. It'll either be Romney for 2 terms or Romney followed by a Democrat.

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Old 10-11-2012, 14:50   #28
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Wow what a surprise! Not! Liberterians for gun control!! Yea go vote for Garry Johnson ie Obamamoa! Now lets here you say your vote doesn't count Liberterians! Are you going to vote against the COTUS?
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:03   #29
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Obama openly admitted in the debate last night that he wants the AWB to be brought back.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:50   #30
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Gun bans are nothing more than treason.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:09   #31
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I'm not an Obama supporter. Plus I fixed your post.
I don't believe you.

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Old 10-17-2012, 06:16   #32
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I don't believe you.

Does anyone?

Hmmm...Let's put it this way...How many non-Obama supporters do we know who accuse everyone voting for Romney of being racist?

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How can anyone that's a gun owner, a Veteran or a Christian support Romney?

Oh, that's right....... because Obama is black.

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Old 10-17-2012, 06:22   #33
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Hmmm...Let's put it this way...How many non-Obama supporters do we know who accuse everyone voting for Romney of being racist?




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Old 10-17-2012, 06:24   #34
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Obama openly admitted in the debate last that he wants the AWB to be brought back.
I was surprised he actually said that.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:26   #35
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Really surprised they aren't going after ammo based on EPA regs or new taxes. Seems like that would be much easier to get done.
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Really surprised they aren't going after ammo based on EPA regs or new taxes. Seems like that would be much easier to get done.
...But not as 'symbolic' .....

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Kinda funny,after the debate our local libs are absent.'08.
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I'm not an Obama supporter. Plus I fixed your post.
You are a pathological liar.
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Really surprised they aren't going after ammo based on EPA regs or new taxes. Seems like that would be much easier to get done.
Actually his thugs have tried that route through the EPA.
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No, not really.
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