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10-11-2012, 13:06
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Romney: ‘We Don’t Have People Who Die Because They Don’t Have Insurance’
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ured-hospital/
Mitt Romney doubled down on his suggestion that uninsured Americans can find the care they need in emergency rooms, telling The Dispatch that people will always receive the treatment they need, and do not die or suffer because they can not pay for care. He pointed to federal law that requires hospitals to admit emergency patients, repeating his advice that patients rely on the most expensive form of care reserved strictly for emergencies. Romney told the Columbus Dispatch: “We don’t have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, ‘Tough luck, you’re going to die when you have your heart attack,’ ” he said as he offered more hints as to what he would put in place of “Obamacare,” which he has pledged to repeal.
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
He pointed out that federal law requires hospitals to treat those without health insurance — although hospital officials frequently say that drives up health-care costs.
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10-11-2012, 13:09
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Wait until Obamacare death panels get to deny treatment.
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10-11-2012, 13:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flintlocker
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ured-hospital/
Mitt Romney doubled down on his suggestion that uninsured Americans can find the care they need in emergency rooms, telling The Dispatch that people will always receive the treatment they need, and do not die or suffer because they can not pay for care. He pointed to federal law that requires hospitals to admit emergency patients, repeating his advice that patients rely on the most expensive form of care reserved strictly for emergencies. Romney told the Columbus Dispatch: “We don’t have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, ‘Tough luck, you’re going to die when you have your heart attack,’ ” he said as he offered more hints as to what he would put in place of “Obamacare,” which he has pledged to repeal.
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
He pointed out that federal law requires hospitals to treat those without health insurance — although hospital officials frequently say that drives up health-care costs.
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And Gov. Romney is correct!
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10-11-2012, 13:31
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That is a bunch of BS, back in the late seventies and early eighties I had a friend(no health Ins) that moved to ATL and had his appendix burst while laying on his couch in is apartment. He went to one of the area Hospitals emergency rooms and he was pushed aside and had to wait for a couple of hours in pain I might add. They eventually sent him back home without treatment. He almost died but he eventually made it back to the hospital for emergency surgery and lived but really was never the same. He gained a lot of weight and looked bloated. He eventually sued the hospital and won a settlement. I am almost sure that the result of the ruptured appendix that poisoned his system had effect on his early death(48 years old).
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10-11-2012, 13:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flintlocker
http://thinkprogress.org/election/20...ured-hospital/
Mitt Romney doubled down on his suggestion that uninsured Americans can find the care they need in emergency rooms, telling The Dispatch that people will always receive the treatment they need, and do not die or suffer because they can not pay for care. He pointed to federal law that requires hospitals to admit emergency patients, repeating his advice that patients rely on the most expensive form of care reserved strictly for emergencies. Romney told the Columbus Dispatch: “We don’t have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, ‘Tough luck, you’re going to die when you have your heart attack,’ ” he said as he offered more hints as to what he would put in place of “Obamacare,” which he has pledged to repeal.
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
He pointed out that federal law requires hospitals to treat those without health insurance — although hospital officials frequently say that drives up health-care costs.
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My wife works at the hospital and say Romney is right, but what does she know? She isn't an internet liberal troll
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10-11-2012, 13:35
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Maybe Romney was talking about priorities, and some peoples' are ****ed up.
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10-11-2012, 13:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpoppie50
That is a bunch of BS, back in the late seventies and early eighties I had a friend(no health Ins) that moved to ATL and had his appendix burst while laying on his couch in is apartment. He went to one of the area Hospitals emergency rooms and he was pushed aside and had to wait for a couple of hours in pain I might add. They eventually sent him back home without treatment. He almost died but he eventually made it back to the hospital for emergency surgery and lived but really was never the same. He gained a lot of weight and looked bloated. He eventually sued the hospital and won a settlement. I am almost sure that the result of the ruptured appendix that poisoned his system had effect on his early death(48 years old).
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Your friend was just a few years too early.
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act
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10-11-2012, 13:47
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It's not just ER's that accept people with no insurance. We have a Catholic hospital that offers reduced rates for them for doctor appointments, a secular hospital with a freestanding clinic with doctors that cater exclusively to them, a city-run free clinic, and a small Christian clinic downtown.
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10-11-2012, 13:53
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So Flintlicker has proved again that Mitt is correct! Thanks great advertisement to elect Mitt over the Obamanattion !
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10-11-2012, 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herose
And Gov. Romney is correct!
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Yep. I can only guess Flintlocker grew up some suburb and has no experience with this kind of thing. Those of us who grew up among and around the poor know Romney is dead right.
I'll say again - nobody could have as perfect a record of failing with each thread he starts as Flintlocker. I think he is a conservative faking it to make liberals look foolish.
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Last edited by Bren; 10-11-2012 at 14:24..
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10-11-2012, 14:24
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Flintlocker, you're grasping on to straws. Romney sucks on so many levels, but it seems what you just quoted him on, he actually makes sense.
If you're going to tear up Romney, bring up how the Ryan budget is just as imbalanced as the Obama budget. Now of course, that'd be clowning on your homie Obama, but you gotta do what you gotta do to point out why and how America is really being destroyed. Both of them are horrible choices.
80% of you guys on here (including GS shark and flintlocker) make me think if you were offered heroin or cocaine, you'd be thinking to yourselves "Well, which one is the lesser of 2 evils, I need to ingest one!"
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When Obama raises your boss's taxes, and you lose your job, how does that make you better off?
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10-11-2012, 14:30
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What part of that isn't true?
Now explain to us how Obamacase isn't going to reduce the quality of healthcare for almost everyone.
Last edited by cowboy1964; 10-11-2012 at 14:31..
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10-11-2012, 14:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OctoberRust
Flintlocker, you're grasping on to straws. Romney sucks on so many levels, but it seems what you just quoted him on, he actually makes sense.
If you're going to tear up Romney, bring up how the Ryan budget is just as imbalanced as the Obama budget. Now of course, that'd be clowning on your homie Obama, but you gotta do what you gotta do to point out why and how America is really being destroyed. Both of them are horrible choices.
80% of you guys on here (including GS shark and flintlocker) make me think if you were offered heroin or cocaine, you'd be thinking to yourselves "Well, which one is the lesser of 2 evils, I need to ingest one!" 
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And you are on acid, hallucenating a third party matters.

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10-11-2012, 14:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpoppie50
He eventually sued the hospital and won a settlement.
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Carter's fault.
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10-11-2012, 14:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OctoberRust
80% of you guys on here (including GS shark and flintlocker) make me think if you were offered heroin or cocaine, you'd be thinking to yourselves "Well, which one is the lesser of 2 evils, I need to ingest one!" 
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That's a good analogy, if - as with the election - you will be ingesting one of the 2 no matter what you decide. In that case, you'd better decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils and make the choice. (it's cocaine, by the way).
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Last edited by Bren; 10-11-2012 at 14:32..
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10-11-2012, 14:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
That's a good analogy, if - as with the election - you will be ingesting one of the 2 no matter what you decide. In that case, you'd better decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils and make the choice. (it's cocaine, by the way).
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Thanks, I get my analogies from you guys.
I think my favorite analogy from you is when I advocate less gov't intervention in someone's life, and you compare me to a big gov't liberal.
Cocaine huh? Sweet! Charlie Sheen style you say?!@#
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If you don't pay taxes, you shouldn't vote.
"A tax loophole is something that benefits the other guy. If it benefits you, it's called a tax reform"
When Obama raises your boss's taxes, and you lose your job, how does that make you better off?
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10-11-2012, 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall
Carter's fault.

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Not to mention, the fact that the guy was able to sue the hospital and win very clearly disproves the point that Bigpoppie50 seemed to be trying to make.
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Last edited by Bren; 10-11-2012 at 14:35..
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10-11-2012, 14:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
And you are on acid, hallucenating a third party matters.
 
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Third parties have an will continue to flip the outcome of elections.
So they matter.
Without the Green Party, Al Gore would've been President during 9/11.
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10-11-2012, 14:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundude
Third parties have an will continue to flip the outcome of elections.
So they matter.
Without the Green Party, Al Gore would've been President during 9/11.
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They might affect someone elses candidate, but they never get one of their own in, they are just voting for their favorite without taking the responsibility.
BFD
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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10-11-2012, 14:39
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"you'd better decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils and make the choice" ~
2 evils?
.....Most Americans want a better economy...stronger Military....more jobs.... and **hate socialism/Liberalism/Muslim tolerance (appeasement)....
The choice is easy.....For Americans...Go Romney!
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10-11-2012, 14:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
They might affect someone elses candidate, but they never get one of their own in, they are just voting for their favorite without taking the responsibility.
BFD
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So it matters to a whole lot of people: The candidate who lost, everybody who voted for him, and the party he represents.
Saying they can't get elected is very different from saying they don't matter.
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10-11-2012, 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundude
So it matters to a whole lot of people: The candidate who lost, everybody who voted for him, and the party he represents.
Saying they can't get elected is very different from saying they don't matter.
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There votes this time have been tallied as Obama votes to everyone, they are just phonies and won't admit it
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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10-11-2012, 14:47
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Why does anyone even pay any attention to the troll?
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10-11-2012, 14:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
That's a good analogy, if - as with the election - you will be ingesting one of the 2 no matter what you decide. In that case, you'd better decide which is the lesser of the 2 evils and make the choice. (it's cocaine, by the way).
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What if it's coke vs pot? Alcohol vs pot? Everclear vs 151?
You might find that, among those who would rather do neither, not everybody is choosing the same lesser of two evils.
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10-11-2012, 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
There votes this time have been tallied as Obama votes to everyone, they are just phonies and won't admit it
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Whether that's true or not, you still can't dispute that they matter. They can flip the election.
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