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Old 10-14-2012, 12:16   #1
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Glock 29 barrel

KKM Barrel or Stock Barrel for G29 Street Duty. KKM Barrel seems to be reliable in the G29 Swamp Fox and Underwood loads.

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Old 10-14-2012, 13:56   #2
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If by "street duty", you mean "ON duty" (which is 24/7 if you're a copper), there's only one answer. If your department doesn't prohibit "modified" weapons, they should.

If you mean non-professional street carry, then use what works, at the power level you are comfortable with. However, I would not recommend carrying a modified weapon until it's had at least a few hundred failure-free rounds through it. Someone's life may depend on it.

If there's ever any doubt, use only OTC ammo (which doesn't include Underwood, etc.) in a completely OEM weapon.
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Old 10-14-2012, 14:21   #3
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I mean off duty no restrictions LEOSA KKM has proven to be reliable, put several hundred rds though it.
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Old 10-14-2012, 15:00   #4
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Unless you have a specific need for more power, I wouldn't recommend it, even if it isn't prohibited. Non-standard ammo, such as Underwood, is one thing. Carrying a modified weapon is a huge liability. Unlike civilian use, a failed professional weapon is a legal and civil liability. I'm not saying that it will fail, only that if it does and someone dies, they'll own you. It isn't worth the risk, and just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. An OEM Glock is as reliable as anything available, and aftermarket modifications are less than that. The standard you will be held to won't change, on or off duty.

Overly cautious? Perhaps, but my opinion isn't offered w/o experience.
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Old 10-14-2012, 20:30   #5
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This has come up three times just tonight... STOCK Glocks for carry. Aftermarket gimmicks are fun for the range, but for reliability and legal considerations, keep it factory. It'd be real tough for a lawyer to challenge a legally purchased, legally manufactured pistol. Add a bunch of gizmos and you dick with perfection as well as create the image of an enhanced killing tool that wasn't deadly enough for you as it came from the factory.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:41   #6
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Why is Underwood not considered OTC ammo?

Do BB or DT not qualify as OTC either?

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Why is Underwood not considered OTC ammo?

Do BB or DT not qualify as OTC either?
They are not readily available almost anywhere, and are not standards in the industry. I know of no department that issues any of them as a duty cartridge. There may be (and should be) some conditions that warrant them, but there would have to be a specified need. Law enforcement departments either develop policy regarding equipment, or adopt that of another. While many policies can be applied with a broad interpretation, most rely on a strict liability, especially those specific to use of force and public safety.
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Besides SAAMI, what other standards exist? All of the vendors I listed make ammo to SAAMI specs.
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