GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-23-2012, 06:41   #1
Airborne Infantryman
Future JBT
 
Airborne Infantryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 3,303
AH AMERICA! The litigation-society we live in!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8LMJPN20121023

AH AMERICA!

The only place where you can become a millionaire by suing someone for your own ignorance.

A family of a 14 year old girl is suing Monster (energy drink) because their 14-year old with a heart condition drank two cans over two days, and died.

If her parents were worth a ****, they'd have realized what she was drinking, and stopped her.

Now, due to the litigation-society we live in, her parents will become millionaires, and people all over the U.S. will be further reassured that its ALWAYS someone else's fault, and to just sue companies.

I have a proposition- take every single warning/danger/caution label off of EVERYTHING. Let people starting dying off. You'll be left with either the really lucky ones, or the smart ones. The really lucky ones will die off eventually....

Last edited by Airborne Infantryman; 10-23-2012 at 06:42..
Airborne Infantryman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 07:07   #2
SC Tiger
Shaved Ape
 
SC Tiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 6,997
"The two drinks together contained 480 milligrams of caffeine, the equivalent of 14 12-ounce cans of Coca-Cola, according to the lawsuit."

Christ Almighty that is a lot of caffine.

I don't know how anyone drinks those (especially the 24 oz ones) but a 14 year old should know that she cannot have them, assuming she knew she had a heart condition (ie it wasn't found post-mortem).

I have had one of the Red Bull Cola drinks (after staying up nearly a week when my MIL was in the hospital) but I couldn't drink them on a regular basis. I know people who do though.

I do not think they should be sold in schools.
__________________
Hug your barking irons as the Devil hugs a witch

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keoking View Post
If you're gonna be stupid, don't pull up short. Saddle up and ride it all the way in.

Last edited by SC Tiger; 10-23-2012 at 07:08..
SC Tiger is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 07:38   #3
MtBaldy
Obie Wan, RIP
 
MtBaldy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: At the beach
Posts: 15,946


Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
"The two drinks together contained 480 milligrams of caffeine, the equivalent of 14 12-ounce cans of Coca-Cola, according to the lawsuit."

Christ Almighty that is a lot of caffine.
Over 2 days? Not really.

A strong cup of drip coffee may contain up to 175 mg of caffeine. I drink 2 or 3 of those a day. Vivarin contains 200 mg of caffeine and a dose is 2. The kid had no business drinking it at 14 even if she didn't have a heart condition. Parents are at fault here but they'll probably collect big.
__________________
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury."
― Elmer T Peterson
MtBaldy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 08:14   #4
racerford
Senior Member
 
racerford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DFW area
Posts: 4,871


Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
"The two drinks together contained 480 milligrams of caffeine, the equivalent of 14 12-ounce cans of Coca-Cola, according to the lawsuit."

Christ Almighty that is a lot of caffine.

I don't know how anyone drinks those (especially the 24 oz ones) but a 14 year old should know that she cannot have them, assuming she knew she had a heart condition (ie it wasn't found post-mortem).

I have had one of the Red Bull Cola drinks (after staying up nearly a week when my MIL was in the hospital) but I couldn't drink them on a regular basis. I know people who do though.

I do not think they should be sold in schools.
My 6 and 8 year old children know they are not allowed to have them.

14 12 oz cans of Coke in a day is nothing. I don't think that would even keep me awake an extra hour.

If her parents knew that she had a heart condition that was sensitive to caffeine, they should have kept her away from all caffeine.
racerford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 08:43   #5
raven11
Senior Member
 
raven11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 8,580
my mother has a recently diagnosed Heart Condition. and the doctor made it absolutely clear to the whole family that too much caffeine will kill her. I'm not saying the teenager had the same heart condition that my mother had but i'm assuming she had to know but ignored the risk and drank them anyways
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by oISHUTupNrocKIo View Post
He's actually wrong, after 8-9 shots with a 9mm bullet, you actually get a text on your phone saying "You are being shot at by a 9mm, don't worry, just ignore him and walk away."
raven11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 09:14   #6
skinny99
Crew Chief
 
skinny99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Deltona,FL
Posts: 585
"The lawsuit, filed by her parents, said Fournier died from "cardiac arrhythmia due to caffeine toxicity" that complicated an existing heart valve condition related to a disorder called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome."

So your daughter has a bad heart and you allow her to drink a beverage that is designed to provide stimulation? And this is the manufacturer's fault? Really?

I know it is a bit callous but it really the girls fault. She was 14, not 6 she knew better. If she didn't know then it was the doctor and her parents fault, not the drink company.

You have to have some personal responsibility for your own life. At some point you are the only person that will!
__________________
Successful people do what others can't or won't!

Last edited by skinny99; 10-23-2012 at 09:17..
skinny99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 11:59   #7
pizza_pablo
USN Retired
 
pizza_pablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Western WA
Posts: 2,577
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airborne Infantryman View Post
I have a proposition- take every single warning/danger/caution label off of EVERYTHING. Let people starting dying off. You'll be left with either the really lucky ones, or the smart ones. The really lucky ones will die off eventually....
^^ THIS^^
My lawnmower had a warning sticker that warned against grabbing it, by the deck, and using it to clip hedges.
¡Someone really did that?!
__________________
If liberals don't want us to treat every Muslim like a terrorist, why do they treat every gun owner like the Newtown shooter?
pizza_pablo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 13:23   #8
el_jewapo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 3,637
I've got a couple observations.

First, I doubt the drink played as big of a hand in her death as they make on.

I'm going to stray away from the standard Glocktalk stupidity witch hunt for the second point. I'm sure I'll get flamed for it.

If the drinks did play a big part in her death, 2 drinks in 2 days? WTF? Heart condition or no heart condition, that's crazy. That stuff should be over by the medication, not by the Mountain Dew. That's about it, flame away.
el_jewapo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 13:55   #9
Dragoon189
Senior Member
 
Dragoon189's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
"The two drinks together contained 480 milligrams of caffeine, the equivalent of 14 12-ounce cans of Coca-Cola, according to the lawsuit."
a pregnant woman can safely ingest 200 mg in a day. 300 mg is the recommended max dose an adult can have. That is not an overdose, just the max benefits before problems start (ie jitters, heart rate increase). 2 cans in 24 hours is not unsafe for the general populace, just unhealthy, and the lawsuit is bull ****. I have had that much caffeine by noon let alone 2 days. The parents failed their jobs as parents raising their kids and they should be ashamed of themselves.

There are warnings against people with sensitivities and should be thrown out on appeal, but monster probably settled to keep it out of the news.
__________________
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

Last edited by Dragoon189; 10-23-2012 at 14:04..
Dragoon189 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2012, 13:57   #10
Dragoon189
Senior Member
 
Dragoon189's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by el_jewapo View Post
I've got a couple observations.

First, I doubt the drink played as big of a hand in her death as they make on.

I'm going to stray away from the standard Glocktalk stupidity witch hunt for the second point. I'm sure I'll get flamed for it.

If the drinks did play a big part in her death, 2 drinks in 2 days? WTF? Heart condition or no heart condition, that's crazy. That stuff should be over by the medication, not by the Mountain Dew. That's about it, flame away.
you sound like New York City
__________________
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
Dragoon189 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 01:31   #11
Taphius
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 713
I drink over a gram of caffine a day....

crystal light energy packets are my vice, but they let me sleep at night

Last edited by Taphius; 10-24-2012 at 01:31..
Taphius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 03:03   #12
jp3975
Senior Member
 
jp3975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Texarkana, Tx
Posts: 6,378
I hope they dont get a dime and Monster counter sues for legal fees.

I guess they'd sue Folgers if the girl drank coffee? Or a fast food place if she was allergic to peanut oil and they knew they used peanut oil?
jp3975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 03:22   #13
cgwahl
Sheriffs a near
 
cgwahl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 11,103
Worked with a guy that would drink at least 6 of those things a day. I probably shouldn't talk though since I drink more coffee than I should.
__________________
The irony of the information age is that we can't necessarily trust all the information.


Pawsitively Stylish Mobile Pet Salon (Southern California)
cgwahl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 03:33   #14
NeverMore1701
Platinum Membership
Fear no evil.
 
NeverMore1701's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Amarillo, Tx
Posts: 27,608
I've done three or four a day when switching from day to night 12s and vice versa, good stuff!



Oh, and the parents are retarded.
__________________
And if we should die tonight
We should all die together
Raise a glass of wine
For the last time
NeverMore1701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 11:48   #15
Random
AtticRat
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 1,326
Quote:
Originally Posted by racerford View Post
14 12 oz cans of Coke in a day is nothing. I don't think that would even keep me awake an extra hour.
Ha ha. Nice to know I'm not the only one. Two 2-liters a day was my norm. Got to the point where I had to drink Coke to help myself get to sleep.

....Then in Feb... 22 kidney stones. Still got 15 of those bad boys in there somewhere.
Drink as much as you want, just remember to also drink a little water now and then.
Random is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:23   #16
CanMan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: in flagrante
Posts: 941
I bet they'll stop by McDonalds to console themselves, spill hot coffee on their nether regions, sue agian & settle for a measly 500k. The parents are dolts! Sympathy for the little girl.

or;

Maybe they're dolts and they were tired of taking care of a child with a medical condition?
CanMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 16:09   #17
FCastle88
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 1,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by el_jewapo View Post
I've got a couple observations.

First, I doubt the drink played as big of a hand in her death as they make on.

I'm going to stray away from the standard Glocktalk stupidity witch hunt for the second point. I'm sure I'll get flamed for it.

If the drinks did play a big part in her death, 2 drinks in 2 days? WTF? Heart condition or no heart condition, that's crazy. That stuff should be over by the medication, not by the Mountain Dew. That's about it, flame away.
2 energy drinks in 2 days is nothing. I work night shift, and I've had 2-3 of the 16oz Monsters in one day a few times when I didn't have time to sleep, plus Crystal Light energy packets every night at work. Sometimes all of that can just barely keep me awake. Plenty of people drink 4-5 cups of coffee or more a day, 8 ounces of most brewed coffees contains over 100mg of caffeine. A 16oz Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks coffee has more caffeine than a 16oz Monster.

I heard about this on the radio the other day, they were trying to make a big deal about a couple people dying after supposedly drinking several energy drinks. A couple people dying is a tragic fluke, not a health/safety problem. As popular as Monster and other energy drinks are, if they were unsafe there would be thousands of people dying after drinking them, not just a couple.
FCastle88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 16:16   #18
Johnspark
Grumpy Fish
 
Johnspark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southeastern U.S.
Posts: 3,233
They'll settle out of court, sign the no fault clause, and walk away with a comfy check.
__________________
101st Airborne
Johnspark is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 13:47.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,115
362 Members
753 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42