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Old 10-26-2012, 11:40   #1
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Is Army Pathfinder School tough to get thru

My grandson who is a 19D Cav Scout...with an Air Assault badge, mentioned Pathfinder school to me during our last conversation. Has anyone been thru the training? I know its more brain than brawn. Is it that tough?
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:51   #2
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It's not that tough, and yes, it tends to be more brain than brawn. He also has to be Airborne qualified first too.

We used to call Pathfinders "glorified lumberjacks". There ain't nuthin' like jumping in with chainsaw & fell axes.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:33   #3
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It's not that tough, and yes, it tends to be more brain than brawn. He also has to be Airborne qualified first too.

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Used to be that way, but no more. ABN is no longer a pre-req.

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It's not that tough, and yes, it tends to be more brain than brawn. He also has to be Airborne qualified first too.
Not really required - a guy from my company went through a couple of years ago and he hadn't jumped in so long he was no longer qualified without the jump refresher course. Him and the non-airborne students went by truck and foot. He also didn't have the "billet requiring pathfinder skills" but he was the reserve compnent drill sergeant of the year, so he got to go anyhow.
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I suppose you can bring in more explosive and lumber clearance equipment on a truck than strapped to your ruck.
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I suppose you can bring in more explosive and lumber clearance equipment on a truck than strapped to your ruck.
On the other hand, if you can get there by truck, what's the point of pathfinders and parachutes?
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On the other hand, if you can get there by truck, what's the point of pathfinders and parachutes?
Isn't that what the Scouts are for?
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On the other hand, if you can get there by truck, what's the point of pathfinders and parachutes?
That sounds logical at first, but if you look back at the concept of the original WWII Pathfinders, their mission was to set up drop zones for massive airborne operations, so a handful of men in a truck might have access to an area that a larger force wouldn't. Decades later, when I was in the 101st Pathfinders, there were no more large scale airborne operations, but rather air mobile or air assault situations. I was at Ft Campbell and a substantial portion of what we did there was really just field level air traffic control.
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I was at Ft Campbell and a substantial portion of what we did there was really just field level air traffic control.
I've found that most of the grunts flunked out because of commo procedures and coordinations. How do I say this to be sensitive? Most of them ain't smart.
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