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Old 11-03-2012, 23:09   #21
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Surefire can kiss my arse. They have to know that their exposed rubber tail cap on almost all of their lights is stupid. That cap must be protected like it is in the defender (I think) series.

I suppose you can buy a forty dollar replacement tailcap for a light you just spend a hundred bucks plus on.

I hate my X300 on my M4 partly because the light gets turned on accidentally when I am moving/storing the gun-killed many batteries that way.
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Old 11-03-2012, 23:19   #22
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i was playing with my tlr 1 on the ar tonight after sunset. I ziptied it in the offset location between 9 and 12 o clock on my rail. I must say the 160 lumens is plenty of light at 50-100 yds. The activation is a little iffy as well. With a mount that would set me back around 150(tlr1-s and Thorntail Mount).
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Old 11-03-2012, 23:27   #23
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Surefire can kiss my arse. They have to know that their exposed rubber tail cap on almost all of their lights is stupid. That cap must be protected like it is in the defender (I think) series.

I suppose you can buy a forty dollar replacement tailcap for a light you just spend a hundred bucks plus on.

I hate my X300 on my M4 partly because the light gets turned on accidentally when I am moving/storing the gun-killed many batteries that way.
While the Surefire handhelds are rated for recoil, they're usually not intended for weapon-mounted use. The exposed tailcap is easier to use with heavy gloves or mittens - same with the twist for constant on setup.

The VTAC/Surefire lights are a pretty good deal for the money - same output and layout as a Scout, but without the integrated mount or remote pressure switch in the box. Instead, you get a VTAC mount, and around half the price of a Scout.
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Old 11-03-2012, 23:31   #24
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thats what im looking at now as well plank.. what tail cap do they ship with? i was unaware they shipped with a mount.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:04   #25
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I run the X300 at 12 as well. Its rad
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Old 11-04-2012, 22:58   #26
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Surefire can kiss my arse. They have to know that their exposed rubber tail cap on almost all of their lights is stupid. That cap must be protected like it is in the defender (I think) series.

I suppose you can buy a forty dollar replacement tailcap for a light you just spend a hundred bucks plus on.

I hate my X300 on my M4 partly because the light gets turned on accidentally when I am moving/storing the gun-killed many batteries that way.
Those sound like personal issues to me... Surefire is the standard for a reason


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Old 11-17-2012, 13:52   #27
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Another vote for the Insight WL-1AA here.
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Old 11-17-2012, 14:43   #28
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Surefire can kiss my arse. They have to know that their exposed rubber tail cap on almost all of their lights is stupid. That cap must be protected like it is in the defender (I think) series.
I have an M951, and I've never had an issue with the exposed rubber tail cap.

Do you mean that you have stored your AR, and had something hit the rubber cap switch and burned out the batteries?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:44   #29
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I've run my old 951, M300A and now my M600c on my patrol rifle and have had no issues with the clicky cap.

It could just be a storage issue with the poster and I do not want to start chippin' at the poster just yet.

He wasn't specific as to how it's stored or the circumstances surrounding it.

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Old 11-30-2012, 09:38   #30
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update i ordered a cree r5 drop in for the g2. WOW what a difference. Now onto a light mount, thinking about a thorntail.

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I have an M951, and I've never had an issue with the exposed rubber tail cap.

Do you mean that you have stored your AR, and had something hit the rubber cap switch and burned out the batteries?
Yes, that has happened.

As a patrol light however, I have to keep the cap twisted so the light will not come on while it is on my belt.

Granted they are minor things I guess, but to me, for an expensive flashlight, negligent discharges of light due to an exposed tailcap should not be an issue.
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Yes, that has happened.

As a patrol light however, I have to keep the cap twisted so the light will not come on while it is on my belt.

Granted they are minor things I guess, but to me, for an expensive flashlight, negligent discharges of light due to an exposed tailcap should not be an issue.
To be fair, those are your issues, and have nothing to do with the light. Getting all pissed off and bad-mouthing Sure Fire products because they failed due to your own particular circumstances is hardly fair.
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I use an Streamlight TRL-1 on a piece of foward pic. rail. Its works great for me.
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Has anyone used a tlr-1 HP? The head makes it look like the lights of yesteryear's ARs but I have read good things...


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Has anyone used a tlr-1 HP? The head makes it look like the lights of yesteryear's ARs but I have read good things...

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Yes, that has happened.

As a patrol light however, I have to keep the cap twisted so the light will not come on while it is on my belt.

Granted they are minor things I guess, but to me, for an expensive flashlight, negligent discharges of light due to an exposed tailcap should not be an issue.
Why don't you get the clicky tail cap or a different holder?


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I've carried the G2Z for 4 years on patrol in a V70 carrier and never had a ND. It had replaced my Streamlight Stinger.

I recently replaced it with a 6PX and have had no issues with ND.

Not sure what the problem is with ND's but I carry bezel up.

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Old 12-04-2012, 23:00   #39
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B0tach tactical has surefire x300 ultra's, 500 lumens, for $209...call and make sure they are in stock before ordering. I bought one and paid an extra ten bucks to get an included mount that attaches to the front sight so that the light is mounted at 12 o'clock, forward of the front sight. I can't say enough good things about mine, it has been great. I just think that surefire charging $150 for a damn pressure switch, and another $50 for a new battery cover to accept the pressure switch is RIDICULOUS!!!
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B0tach tactical has surefire x300 ultra's, 500 lumens, for $209...call and make sure they are in stock before ordering. I bought one and paid an extra ten bucks to get an included mount that attaches to the front sight so that the light is mounted at 12 o'clock, forward of the front sight. I can't say enough good things about mine, it has been great. I just think that surefire charging $150 for a damn pressure switch, and another $50 for a new battery cover to accept the pressure switch is RIDICULOUS!!!
Why do you need a pressure switch if its mounted at 12? Doesn't your thumb naturally fall on the rocker? Mine does anyway


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