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Old 11-05-2012, 13:28   #26
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If you HAD to vote and their were only the D and R candidates, which would you choose? .
Why would I HAVE to? This is America, isn't it?
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:29   #27
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Those people aren't dissatisfied with both parties like we are, only the other party. They are shoved firmly up one party or the other's arse and tow that party's line and they expect you to do the same. Doesn't even matter if they're basically the same guy like this time around. All that matters to them is that R or D after the guy's name. They're just like rabid football fans. When their side wins they jump and cheer as if they had something to do with it and it's partly their accomplishment and when they lose they analyze every aspect of what happened looking for excuses and foul plays and anything else they can use to reconcile having backed the loser the whole time

And when you don't tow their party's line they can't think of anything to say except to call you a socialist or a fascist or a troll and spew dire warnings of what will happen if their guy doesn't win the election... every election. Yet each time nothing changes no matter who wins. Pretty much speaks to the single minded nature of their thought processes... if they even have one.
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:40   #28
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Third-party voters remind me of the plain, sturdy women who you inevitably hear laughing too loudly at night clubs. They just want some attention. Eric
And they do get the attention and the action while the pretty chicks are too prissy to get anything done. While waiting for their princes on white horses, of course.
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:48   #29
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And they do get the attention and the action while the pretty chicks are too prissy to get anything done. While waiting for their princes on white horses, of course.

So, you support beer goggles and throwaway votes? To each his own. Eric
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I see open hostility between them in congress. They get NOTHING accomplished in a way of a budget or helping the economy.

The Republicans and Democrats openly divide this nation. There is no unity from either party.
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:52   #31
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Nope. I'm tired of being lied to, ignored, suckered, and swindled out of my rights and money by BOTH the "popular" parties. I'm tired of losing fellow countrymen to unconstitutional wars.

Time for something different. Someone not controlled by special interests. The solution really is simple.

If you guys want to waste your votes on either the "Sharp Stick in the Eye", or the "Kick to the Nads" that's your right. I really don't get it, but hey, if it makes you feel good...
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:58   #32
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Also, interesting you should say this. I guess you're right. I'll just vote Federalist since the parties will never change.
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If all 300 million Americans voted Libertarian, Federalist or SpongeBob, the one remaining Republican voter would still be screaming, "You all are throwing away your votes unless you vote for MY guy!"
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So, you support beer goggles and throwaway votes? To each his own. Eric
Large girls need love too. And I'd throw my vote away before voting for a Democrat or a Republican.
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You buy a lottery ticket. You have to check five numbers between 1 and 50. You write in "75, 98, 123, -1, Pi". What do you expect to win?
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It isn't irony - in fact it's pretty simple and probably just barely over your head.

1. You are throwing your vote away.
2. You are helping the one of the two major parties that you dislike the most.

If you HAD to vote and their were only the D and R candidates, which would you choose? If it's Obama, then your third party vote helps Romney, if it would be Romney, then your third party vote helps Obama.

You can spend all day examining 2 + 2, but it's still going to end up being 4, no matter what you call it.
If your only choice was a vote for Hermann Göring or Adolf Hitler, who would you vote for?
I cannot vote for the lessor of two evils. Neither is a good choice. If voting for what I feel is best for this country is futile, then I will go to my grave fighting the good fight, and with a clear conscious.
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Why would I HAVE to? This is America, isn't it?
That isn't the point and since the point was too simple to miss, I assume you are just trying to make a joke of the obvious.
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Voting for a third party candidate in a lost cause is a waste.

If there is ever to become a viable third party, they better start organizing and raising a few billion dollars and getting their message across now so they could have some sort of chance to make an impact in four years.

Waiting for election day and throwing your vote away instead of voting for the lesser of two evils may make one feel warm and fuzzy but it has no more effect than not voting at all.
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That isn't the point and since the point was too simple to miss, I assume you are just trying to make a joke of the obvious.
I refused to play your game because your point was stupid.

I don't have to choose between any two specific parties.
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Waiting for election day and throwing your vote away instead of voting for the lesser of two evils may make one feel warm and fuzzy but it has no more effect than not voting at all.
And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
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If your only choice was a vote for Hermann Göring or Adolf Hitler, who would you vote for?
I cannot vote for the lessor of two evils. Neither is a good choice. If voting for what I feel is best for this country is futile, then I will go to my grave fighting the good fight, and with a clear conscious.
If either Goering or Hitler was going to win the election, no matter what, I'd figure out which was the least harmful and vote for him (probably Hitler).

Acting like a spoiled child isn't going to change the fact that one of them is going to win.

Some people recognize facts, accept responsibility and take action. Most just try to duck the responsibility. It is a cowardly way out and voting third party is just one of many examples that.
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I refused to play your game because your point was stupid.

I don't have to choose between any two specific parties.
That you do not HAVE to choose is exactly the point. It is a hypothetical example used to demonstrate which of the 2 major-party candidates you are helping, by voting thrid party.

What was stupid was not being able to figure that out.
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If either Goering or Hitler was going to win the election, no matter what, I'd figure out which was the least harmful and vote for him (probably Hitler).
Yep. Instead of fighting the good fight, you'd rather settle for the winning side.

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Acting like a spoiled child isn't going to change the fact that one of them is going to win.

Some people recognize facts, accept responsibility and take action. Most just try to duck the responsibility. It is a cowardly way out and voting third party is just one of many examples that.
Reason it any which way you want, you ain't doing America any favor by partisanship. Lemmings may follow a leader but they still run off the cliff and die en masse. America is bleeding from a thousand cuts but hey, let's be responsible and take action and vote for the lesser of two evils. Again. And again. And again.
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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
Don't expect an honest answer to that question...

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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
Throw away your vote tomorrow if you so desire- that is your right. But anyone who can't see Romney in the White House instead of Obama would be a plus when the Supreme Court justices start retiring is a moron.

Anyone who dislikes the Dems and Repubs needs to do something to actually get a viable third party some traction with US voters- how has that been working out for you and the rest of America?
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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
And how has it worked out for you? You have the same president and elected officials in Washington as the rest of us. The only thing you get is that you get that warm fuzzy feeling on the inside that you voted for the guy that is probably just as but, but just couldnt make the lesser of two evils list because they wont run under a big party.

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Sounds to me like you are just as much as if not more of a party voter than everyone else. Sounds to me like your pretty close minded to anyone BUT third party.
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Third-party voters remind me of the plain, sturdy women who you inevitably hear laughing too loudly at night clubs. They just want some attention. Eric
And yet those plain sturdy women are loyal as hell to a man that treats them right.
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Why are 3rd party folks so eat up with "uniting" the country. I have zero desire to unite with Obama phone zombies or college professor libtards--I want to crush them in order to save this nation for my children.
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I don't see it as a wasted vote as I'm hoping the Libertarian candidate can garner the 5% needed to open the door for huge increases in campaign funding in 2016. Y'all know about this?

http://www.postlibertarian.com/2012/...ent-threshold/
In 1992 a third party of 18-19% of the popular vote. Then what happened? Nothing.

The same party then got 8% in 1996. Then what happened? Nothing.

The irony is the leader of the above third party endorses a Republican in 2012.

What's going to happen if a third party get 5% this time? Probably nothing.
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