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Old 11-05-2012, 15:15   #41
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I refused to play your game because your point was stupid.

I don't have to choose between any two specific parties.
That you do not HAVE to choose is exactly the point. It is a hypothetical example used to demonstrate which of the 2 major-party candidates you are helping, by voting thrid party.

What was stupid was not being able to figure that out.
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:17   #42
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If either Goering or Hitler was going to win the election, no matter what, I'd figure out which was the least harmful and vote for him (probably Hitler).
Yep. Instead of fighting the good fight, you'd rather settle for the winning side.

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Acting like a spoiled child isn't going to change the fact that one of them is going to win.

Some people recognize facts, accept responsibility and take action. Most just try to duck the responsibility. It is a cowardly way out and voting third party is just one of many examples that.
Reason it any which way you want, you ain't doing America any favor by partisanship. Lemmings may follow a leader but they still run off the cliff and die en masse. America is bleeding from a thousand cuts but hey, let's be responsible and take action and vote for the lesser of two evils. Again. And again. And again.
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:17   #43
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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
Don't expect an honest answer to that question...

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Old 11-05-2012, 15:22   #45
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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
Throw away your vote tomorrow if you so desire- that is your right. But anyone who can't see Romney in the White House instead of Obama would be a plus when the Supreme Court justices start retiring is a moron.

Anyone who dislikes the Dems and Repubs needs to do something to actually get a viable third party some traction with US voters- how has that been working out for you and the rest of America?
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:32   #46
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And how does voting for the lesser of two evils have been working out for you and the rest of America?
And how has it worked out for you? You have the same president and elected officials in Washington as the rest of us. The only thing you get is that you get that warm fuzzy feeling on the inside that you voted for the guy that is probably just as but, but just couldnt make the lesser of two evils list because they wont run under a big party.

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Large girls need love too. And I'd throw my vote away before voting for a Democrat or a Republican.
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Sounds to me like you are just as much as if not more of a party voter than everyone else. Sounds to me like your pretty close minded to anyone BUT third party.
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Third-party voters remind me of the plain, sturdy women who you inevitably hear laughing too loudly at night clubs. They just want some attention. Eric
And yet those plain sturdy women are loyal as hell to a man that treats them right.
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So, you support beer goggles and throwaway votes? To each his own. Eric
More like loyalty and freedom...
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:47   #49
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Why are 3rd party folks so eat up with "uniting" the country. I have zero desire to unite with Obama phone zombies or college professor libtards--I want to crush them in order to save this nation for my children.
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:49   #50
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I don't see it as a wasted vote as I'm hoping the Libertarian candidate can garner the 5% needed to open the door for huge increases in campaign funding in 2016. Y'all know about this?

http://www.postlibertarian.com/2012/...ent-threshold/
In 1992 a third party of 18-19% of the popular vote. Then what happened? Nothing.

The same party then got 8% in 1996. Then what happened? Nothing.

The irony is the leader of the above third party endorses a Republican in 2012.

What's going to happen if a third party get 5% this time? Probably nothing.
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Until third parties can get people elected and in positions of power in local, state and national races what's the point? It's just a "feel good, I can sleep at night", vote.
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If either Goering or Hitler was going to win the election, no matter what, I'd figure out which was the least harmful and vote for him (probably Hitler).

Acting like a spoiled child isn't going to change the fact that one of them is going to win.

Some people recognize facts, accept responsibility and take action. Most just try to duck the responsibility. It is a cowardly way out and voting third party is just one of many examples that.
Sooo, standing for ones principles and refusing to be bullied, coddled or cajoled into violating ones principles and values... that's being a spoiled child?

Last I checked that was being a person of honor and courage. It takes both to go against the status quo.
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:54   #53
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If either Goering or Hitler was going to win the election, no matter what, I'd figure out which was the least harmful and vote for him (probably Hitler).

Acting like a spoiled child isn't going to change the fact that one of them is going to win.

Some people recognize facts, accept responsibility and take action. Most just try to duck the responsibility. It is a cowardly way out and voting third party is just one of many examples that.
But the only reason they are going to win the election is because you refuse to vote for someone that can't win. They can't win because you refuse to vote for them.

At the end of the day, you still voted for Hitler and are trying to convince others that it was the right decision.
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And how has it worked out for you? You have the same president and elected officials in Washington as the rest of us. The only thing you get is that you get that warm fuzzy feeling on the inside that you voted for the guy that is probably just as but, but just couldnt make the lesser of two evils list because they wont run under a big party.

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Sounds to me like you are just as much as if not more of a party voter than everyone else. Sounds to me like your pretty close minded to anyone BUT third party.
Quite frankly I am pretty pissed that there are so many stubborn idiots in this country that continue to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Albert Einstein one of our nations brightest minds called that the definition of insanity.
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Until third parties can get people elected and in positions of power in local, state and national races what's the point? It's just a "feel good, I can sleep at night", vote.
What's the point of voting at all? How many presidential elections have come down to a single vote? You are wasting your time by driving to the polls, your vote will not matter at the end of the day. The election would have went the same way without your vote. Just because you voted for one of the 2 major political parties didn't make your candidate win or lose any more than my voting for a third party.
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Until third parties can get people elected and in positions of power in local, state and national races what's the point? It's just a "feel good, I can sleep at night", vote.
You can wait until others do the work for you, or you can get in early and be part of the solution.
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Sooo, standing for ones principles and refusing to be bullied, coddled or cajoled into violating ones principles and values... that's being a spoiled child?

Last I checked that was being a person of honor and courage. It takes both to go against the status quo.
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Why are 3rd party folks so eat up with "uniting" the country. I have zero desire to unite with Obama phone zombies or college professor libtards--I want to crush them in order to save this nation for my children.
Guess what? The libtards are feeling the same way as you do, and doing the same thing as you do. Does the country look like it's been getting better in the last twenty-something years?
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When nearly half the people disagree with nearly another half, but all of them agree that you are wrong, shouldn't it make you wonder why you remain alone?
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When nearly half the people disagree with nearly another half, but all of them agree that you are wrong, shouldn't it make you wonder why you remain alone?
Since when two wrongs make a right?
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