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Old 11-05-2012, 17:27   #81
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Ok, to sum up...

voting for the lesser of 3 evils = Good

voting for the lesser of 2 evils (who acutally has a chance) = Bad.

Or are we to believe this '3rd party candidate' is the mythical perfect political creature, without blemish?
Electing a third party just might be what the Republicans need to wake them up. Maybe it could help them get back on track. Maybe they would stop supporting RINO’s and get serious about things once again.

The Republicans made a deal with the Devil. I did not.

I see nothing wrong with supporting a Party that I am more compatible with. I want more rights, not less freedom. The Republican Party is not the only game in town. They just want everybody who is not a Liberal to believe they are. So far it seems to be working for them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:33   #82
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You just don't get it.

G29Reload won't vote Libertarian because paul45 won't because boone10 won't because G36's Rule won't because, etc., etc., etc.

Can one be described as an etcetera? If so...What a bunch of etceteras!


I suspect it has more to do with them liking their party's candidate just the way he is. They sure show no desire to change anything.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:34   #83
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I'm not saying it's true, but....I'm fine with that.
That, sir, is your prerogative. But, don't cry when the libs get the seats third party voters could have changed. Then, they get committees, appointments, judges, and get to write the laws.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:34   #84
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Gary Johnson is the perfect candidate for POTUS. The man was a successful governor twice elected AND a true patriotic American who believes in freedom.
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Possibly, but he will never be elected as a third party candidate. He cannot possibly live long enough for any third party to become mainstream enough to be taken seriously by the general public.

Voting for someone based on your own principals is fine, but you must admit to yourself that he will not, cannot, possibly be elected in your lifetime.

And to suggest (dream) otherwise is delusional.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:36   #85
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How would I do that?
I'll show you the results of the last election I voted in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...Kentucky,_2008

2008 Presidential Election
John McCain 1,048,462
Barack Obama 751,985
Percentage 57.4% 41.2%


I voted for John McCain. Had I voted for a "3rd Party Candidate" the result would have been:

2008 Presidential Election
John McCain 1,048,461
Barack Obama 751,985
Percentage 57.4% 41.2%

And even if I had been the deciding vote in the state, and KY's electoral votes went to Obama instead, Obama would have won the election 373 electoral votes to McCain's 165.

In other words. Me voting for a 3rd party candidate would have had just as much impact as me voting for McCain.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...l_parties.aspx
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:37   #86
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That, sir, is your prerogative. But, don't cry when the libs get the seats third party voters could have changed. Then, they get committees, appointments, judges, and get to write the laws.
Again, I'm fine with that.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:37   #87
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Ok, to sum up...

voting for the lesser of 3 evils = Good

voting for the lesser of 2 evils (who acutally has a chance) = Bad.

Or are we to believe this '3rd party candidate' is the mythical perfect political creature, without blemish?

Or you could wait for this country to magically take a massive shift to the right. Hope for that in one hand and take a guess what you can do in the other while waiting to see which one fills up faster.

The republican party can't even get by being conservative anymore. They've had to become democrat light just to survive.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:38   #88
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I'll vote for whomever represents my personal beliefs the best, regardless of party. In this case, it is Gary Johnson.

I'll repeat this for pretty much all elections.

If Romney wins, I won't cry, though.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:44   #89
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I'll show you the results of the last election I voted in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...Kentucky,_2008

2008 Presidential Election
John McCain 1,048,462
Barack Obama 751,985
Percentage 57.4% 41.2%


I voted for John McCain. Had I voted for a "3rd Party Candidate" the result would have been:

2008 Presidential Election
John McCain 1,048,461
Barack Obama 751,985
Percentage 57.4% 41.2%

And even if I had been the deciding vote in the state, and KY's electoral votes went to Obama instead, Obama would have won the election 373 electoral votes to McCain's 165.

In other words. Me voting for a 3rd party candidate would have had just as much impact as me voting for McCain.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...l_parties.aspx
And...?
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:47   #90
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It may not be perfect but it sure as heck has to be better than what the Dems and Pubs have been shoving down America's throat.
Nearly all Americans agree that you are wrong.

We may not agree on much, but we all recognize that the lunatic fringe is a pathetic bunch of whiney losers who will never be involved in the actual political process.

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Old 11-05-2012, 17:47   #91
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...anyone who can't see Romney in the White House instead of Obama would be a plus when the Supreme Court justices start retiring is a moron.
What are the odds the the GOP would appoint a justice who would oppose DOMA, the Patriot act? What are the odds that the GOP would appoint a justice who would want to erode Jefferson's wall of separation and return prayer to the public square?

Sure, they will appoint different people to the SCOTUS, but neither is any BETTER than the other.

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Old 11-05-2012, 17:49   #92
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I'll vote for whomever represents my personal beliefs the best, regardless of party. In this case, it is Gary Johnson.

I'll repeat this for pretty much all elections.

If Romney wins, I won't cry, though.
Didn't you vote for Rick Santorem against Ron Paul in the primary?
Which of them best represented your personal beliefs?
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:50   #93
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And...?
Your vote doesn't count, so there is nothing wrong with voting third party, or not voting at all.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:54   #94
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Nearly all Americans agree that you are wrong.

We may not agree on much, but we all recognize that the lunatic fringe is a pathetic bunch of whiney losers who will never be involved in the actual political process.

Appeal to majority? Hmmm... what's wrong with that argument?

Oh wait, it's flawed.
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:56   #95
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Come Wednesday morning, don't ask me for a slice from my half a loaf when you're starving with no bread at all.
Why? My job just vanishes overnight? My bank account mysteriously drained?
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Old 11-05-2012, 17:57   #96
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Nearly all Americans agree that you are wrong.

We may not agree on much, but we all recognize that the lunatic fringe is a pathetic bunch of whiney losers who will never be involved in the actual political process.

The proof is in the pudding. America is a quagmire both politically and economically, and which parties have been in power for the last several decades?

As far as pathetic whiney losers, I think that the Republicans and the Democrats got us beat. I've never heard of so much vajaja hurtin' the last twelve years from the Dems and the Pubs whenever their boys didn't get voted in.
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Possibly, but he will never be elected as a third party candidate. He cannot possibly live long enough for any third party to become mainstream enough to be taken seriously by the general public.

Voting for someone based on your own principals is fine, but you must admit to yourself that he will not, cannot, possibly be elected in your lifetime.

And to suggest (dream) otherwise is delusional.
To dream the impossible dream. To fight the impossible foe.
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Old 11-05-2012, 18:02   #98
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Believe it or not. Our country is a major two party system. Where does this leave the third party voter?

The third party voter is in the out house twice.

Once when brains were passed out.

And the next time when the two party system shoved the Outhouse over dumping the contents into the pit.

IF your ego is that big perhaps you Third party voters could stay home and hide in the out house for all the good you are doing.

Are you sending a message????
Your message is clearly outlined above.
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Old 11-05-2012, 18:05   #99
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Your vote doesn't count, so there is nothing wrong with voting third party, or not voting at all.
If you believe your vote doesn't count in any election, why are you even bothering to vote?
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Old 11-05-2012, 18:07   #100
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Nearly all Americans agree that you are wrong.

We may not agree on much, but we all recognize that the lunatic fringe is a pathetic bunch of whiney losers who will never be involved in the actual political process.


Odd how its you Republicans who are getting your panties twisted because we wont lose our individual thoughts and beliefs.

We aren't the whiney losers. We are the ones challenging a failed system. You are the ones who are lost in rhetoric.

If Mitt doesn't win, I bet there will be gnashing of teeth and wearing of sackcloth. All of of it while blaming third party and independent voters.
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