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11-27-2012, 06:18
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Who's Afraid of the Fiscal Cliff?
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11-27-2012, 06:35
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Originally Posted by Pat
Republicans are being told that they either vote for something they believe to be wrong and ruinous—or get something worse.
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I thought that was the standard republican game plan, whether it's elections or votes on legislation.
(great article btw)
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11-27-2012, 06:50
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Let it happen,It'll help cull the herd.'08.
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11-27-2012, 07:07
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I'm more afraid of the Mayan calender ending on 21 December.
The Mayan's have more credibility than the US government.
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11-27-2012, 07:14
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Commie-crat doesn't work.
Democrat lite doesn't work.
The Republicans better get some spine or they aren't gonna work either ...
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11-27-2012, 07:19
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If the GOP caves on this one, all is lost. The public must be educated and imbued with the idea that cutting taxes expands the economy and hence, increases tax revenues. It also cuts spending - unemployment, food stamps, etc.
Raising taxes on the "rich" runs the government for 6 days. Everyone knows that. This is all about throwing another bone to the ignorant masses that buy into the class war. It's about punishing the wealthy and successful in this country and is another step in our march toward socialism.
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11-27-2012, 07:24
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"Who's Afraid of the Fiscal Cliff?"
Obviously very few of the elected monkeys do.
The moves all seem to protect certain political groups... doesn't anyone in DC act according to what's best for the country?
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11-27-2012, 07:58
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It still boggles my mind that we've gone from a $100 billion/year deficit to a $1 trillion/year one but any talk of getting back to previous levels just a third or a half of the way is seen as right wing extremism. Even the "cliff," which lowers the deficit in inefficient ways harmful to the economy, only reduces it by 15% or so.
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11-27-2012, 08:12
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Originally Posted by GAFinch
It still boggles my mind that we've gone from a $100 billion/year deficit to a $1 trillion/year one but any talk of getting back to previous levels just a third or a half of the way is seen as right wing extremism. Even the "cliff," which lowers the deficit in inefficient ways harmful to the economy, only reduces it by 15% or so.
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BrokeBack economy is Obama's 'New Normal' for the USA.No question.
$100B--->$1Trillion.... boggles the mind and angers the honest citizen.
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11-27-2012, 16:11
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Fiscal cliff doesn't sound very ominous. I think they should go with fiscal inferno or fiscal chasm. If they use stronger descriptors they can get more people worked up and willing to accept having 60% of their paycheck confiscated instead of a mere 50%.
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11-27-2012, 16:14
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Broke still equals broke ... what is this cliff thing?
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11-27-2012, 16:20
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I was just talking to my dad about 5 minutes ago about this fiscal cliff and he made a really good point. He thinks Obama wants us to go off it. Think about it. A huge cut to the military and a big tax Increase would free up a lot more cash for Entitlement programs and at the same time put even more people out of work giving him even more people that need it.
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11-27-2012, 16:31
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Taxes will go up. Spending increases might slow a bit, I doubt they will be cut overall. I expect money to simply be transferred from defense and infrastructure to welfare and food stamps.
If you are prepared to accept a lower standard of living, it's nothing to fear. If you are a worker, and you are not prepared to accept a lower standard of living, you are probably in for an unpleasant surprise.
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11-27-2012, 16:55
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
I'm more afraid of the Mayan calender ending on 21 December.
The Mayan's have more credibility than the US government.
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this would be hysterical, if it wasn't true. that just makes it tragic.
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