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Old 11-07-2012, 22:04   #81
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Really? you see nazis in this?

Again, I wil apply the "gotcha" of all of this to you. (and why, so many people vote left, even if they are, in a lot of ways, on the right)

So, your principles (the Right) is the party of "your personal choices are wrong" and we will use the law to keep those freedoms from you

The left is the party of inclusion.

And in your mind, me wanting (because I am on the Right)the right to include more people who may not be "like" us....and you NOT wanting that.....means MY THOUGHTS lead to the nazis?

Uh....No. You need to rethink things.
I wonder what people used as the desperate trump card in arguments before WWII?
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Old 11-07-2012, 22:36   #82
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I wonder what people used as the desperate trump card in arguments before WWII?
Hessians.
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:03   #83
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:13   #84
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And you can keep thinking the left is all about inclusiveness.
You really have not read my points. Thats ok. Good luck.
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:24   #85
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You really have not read my points. Thats ok. Good luck.
I read your points. I don't agree with them. You're not always right. That's OK, too.
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:27   #86
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you are right, a storm is brewing, predicted by some jewish carpenter several centuries ago.
Yep. And the rest of what He said will come true as well
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:29   #87
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So, those of us who vote on principal because we actually have morals and stand for something, should stop? Yeah, OK.

See, some people actually stand for something, and won't change their value system just to win a contest. Whether or not other people agree has no relationship as to what is right and what is wrong.

You're a part time cop. I'm sure you see people doing bad things all the time, but make excuses for it. Should we accept their excuses, simply because they believe a different way? Legality aside, since most states allow for wide discretion among misdemeanor offenses - simply because a subset of the population "believes" a position is moral, when it obviously is not - we shouldnt arrest them?

Yeah - you go with that moral relativism. Personally, I'll stick with my morals, and vote for what is right. My ethics are worth a bit more than an ultimately meaningless contest. I have to look at myself in the mirror every day, and have to answer to not only my family, but God. I've done enough bad things that I have to answer for - I don't need to add to the list.

But, you go ahead with pretending its OK to change your morals in order to win a contest. I don't have to answer for you.
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:33   #88
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Old 11-07-2012, 23:40   #89
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Fine - scorched earth then. Last night the US became a nation of retards and cartoon watchers. Last nights result was like your neighbour's septic tank breaking due to his stupidity and flooding your living room with turds.

We DON'T unite behind this socialist scumbag - not unless you want to look like France and Greece and the plethora of other leftist basket cases.

Hit the vermin where you can personally:

* I've already cancelled any payroll type charitable contributions and will be making no more. Sorry you want to take my stuff, can't afford you.

* Email/phone/write letters or communicate with the Southern governors to withdraw all electrical tech support from the North-East. They played us, let'em starve and freeze to death. They played us, well, fine, we can put our people to good use on our own territory.

* Eliminate leftist organizations from those you do business
with. I've already reduced my Comcast to the bare minimum. When I told the rep I said "I might come back when Comcast drains the swamp at MSNBC." there was alot of sputtering at the end of the line.

* No aid whatsover to anyone who is a leftist. No social arrangements, no help of any kind - they are the enemy, not your friends and voted to destroy you. Let'em starve.

* No business where possible with union oriented enterprises
Thats obvious.

* No association with the leftist press - you can get enough truthful information online with contributing to the profitability
of basically terrorist propaganda organizations that helped throw the election to zero.

* On the GOP side, there has to be a relentless probing of this criminal administration's actions in Benghazi, Solyandra, Fast & Furious etc. Develop articles of impeachment, deliver them to the Senate where of course they will lapse - but they WILL get published. And again..and again. This is a criminal regime that gets Americans killed, destroys our credibility overseas, seeks to establish an alien / Socialist system. They have to be fought ever step of the way.

Its all just pinpricks - but 1000 pinpricks draws ALOT of blood.
This leftist scumbag only bested us in the popular vote by A couple of points, leaving enough furious people with a determined mindset that could hurt him and his minions of vermin.
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Rabbi,

You started well but after your principles vs issues introductory everything has fallen apart through your inclusive canard.

Inclusion, like 427 has pointed out, is definitely not an attribute of today's Democrat Party. I could go back to the savaging of Clarence Thomas and the outrageous treatment he received during his Senate confirmation hearings, for starters. And in the past two decades Democrats have become ever more brazen in their hatred for any minorities who dare to have a conservative political bent.

I could mention the racially insulting cartoon of Condolleeza Rice that brought no condemnation from Democrats or the Black Caucus. And before Romney picked Paul Ryan as his running mate the DNC/Team Obama had already begun a vicious smear campaign against Marco Rubio. We weren't born yesterday, Rabbi, so don't pretend Thomas wasn't deemed an "Uncle Tom", or that Democrats don't get away with a calculated viciousness that would end every Republican's career.

Clarence Thomas can be smeared because "he's not black enough" (translation: doesn't adhere strictly to the Party Line). The same racial attacks were aimed at Nikki Haley when she ran in the So. Carolina gubernatorial race, and the list could go on for a long time.

Of course Democrats couldn't get away with this hateful, non-inclusive racial bigotry were it not for the so-called mainstream media, the real culprit behind the polarization of American politics today. The Founding Fathers understood that our nation could only prosper and thrive with a free and independent press; today America's "journalists" resemble what was once found in the Soviet Union --- slavishly supporting, protecting, and shielding The Party.

No, Rabbi; the term "inclusion" does not mean "I accept you as long as you faithfully parrot the party line and mouth the same 'values' as the party dictates".
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I dont think you know what identify means.

Obama was a fun kid, a cool teen and an interesting "fight the man" college kid who, in spite of being ivy league returned to the streets. (to do nothing but he was there)


And he is President because that story sells well.

Cain has a fair story....but he didnt return to the streets.
There's Colin Powell, he has a compelling story. Blacks and the left identify with him now. He's cool. He's the man.

When he was a Republican, he was hated by those same people. He was the "house negro."

What changed?

So much for the inclusiveness of the left.
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You started well but after your principles vs issues introductory everything has fallen apart through your inclusive canard.

Inclusion, like 427 has pointed out, is definitely not an attribute of today's Democrat Party. I could go back to the savaging of Clarence Thomas and the outrageous treatment he received during his Senate confirmation hearings, for starters. And in the past two decades Democrats have become ever more brazen in their hatred for any minorities who dare to have a conservative political bent.

I could mention the racially insulting cartoon of Condolleeza Rice that brought no condemnation from Democrats or the Black Caucus. And before Romney picked Paul Ryan as his running mate the DNC/Team Obama had already begun a vicious smear campaign against Marco Rubio. We weren't born yesterday, Rabbi, so don't pretend Thomas wasn't deemed an "Uncle Tom", or that Democrats don't get away with a calculated viciousness that would end every Republican's career.

Clarence Thomas can be smeared because "he's not black enough" (translation: doesn't adhere strictly to the Party Line). The same racial attacks were aimed at Nikki Haley when she ran in the So. Carolina gubernatorial race, and the list could go on for a long time.

Of course Democrats couldn't get away with this hateful, non-inclusive racial bigotry were it not for the so-called mainstream media, the real culprit behind the polarization of American politics today. The Founding Fathers understood that our nation could only prosper and thrive with a free and independent press; today America's "journalists" resemble what was once found in the Soviet Union --- slavishly supporting, protecting, and shielding The Party.

No, Rabbi; the term "inclusion" does not mean "I accept you as long as you faithfully parrot the party line and mouth the same 'values' as the party dictates".
Yeah, I addressed this.

For some reason, some of yall think if you can find an exception, the trend falls apart. It doesnt work that way.

Yes, (as I said) the Left will destroy a person. The Right will hate a group.

Come on people. We are talking raw numbers (votes) We are not speaking in absolutes we are speaking in majorities. When we play that game, the Democrats are the party of inclusion and the Republicans are the party of exclusion. The demographics of who votes for who proves this.

If you people refuse to undertand the situation for what it is, you wont be able to fix it.
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There's Colin Powell, he has a compelling story. Blacks and the left identify with him now. He's cool. He's the man.

When he was a Republican, he was hated by those same people. He was the "house negro."

What changed?

So much for the inclusiveness of the left.
Yeah, same post as the last for you.

Somehow math isnt your strong point, nor are results...but that isnt going to stop your from feeling.
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Yeah, I addressed this.

For some reason, some of yall think if you can find an exception, the trend falls apart. It doesnt work that way.

Yes, (as I said) the Left will destroy a person. The Right will hate a group.

Come on people. We are talking raw numbers (votes) We are not speaking in absolutes we are speaking in majorities. When we play that game, the Democrats are the party of inclusion and the Republicans are the party of exclusion. The demographics of who votes for who proves this.

If you people refuse to undertand the situation for what it is, you wont be able to fix it.
BS! You can say it's about who includes what group.

In this election, people voted for more government. There are more people dependent than every before.

Conservatives will say work for what you want.

Liberals will say we'll give you what you want with no strings.

What choice do you think the average illegerate person will choose; work or free stuff?

There are more takers than producers. And the Takers are voting for free stuff. That's the reality.
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Yeah, same post as the last for you.

Somehow math isnt your strong point, nor are results...but that isnt going to stop your from feeling.
Whatever, dude.
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BS! You can say it's about who includes what group.

In this election, people voted for more government. There are more people dependent than every before.

Conservatives will say work for what you want.

Liberals will say we'll give you what you want with no strings.

What choice do you think the average illegerate person will choose; work or free stuff?

There are more takers than producers. And the Takers are voting for free stuff. That's the reality.
That is A reality but not enough of a reality to elect someone.

Casting a wider net and having a bigger tent is the other part of that reality.

Again, until people understand the entire issue and the true reality of the entire issue, instead of just saying "They want socialism" or "they want their handouts..." or "they are poo-poo heads...." You will never be able to confront them and fix the problem with how you have confronted them in the past.

Scores upon scores of middle class, single women and housewives voted Democrat. These are not the "gimme" or 'socialist" crowd. These are people who feel the Republican party really is engages in a war against women. That they are the true enemy of freedom.

You cant cover that up with "They are stupid socialist who want want want...."
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Whatever, dude.
You (and many like you) keep saying the same thing over and over again. "They are stupid socialist who will take and take"

Yeah, that is some of it....but that isnt all of it. You are going to have to open your eyes to the other people who are vote democrate because they feel alienated by the Republicans, NOT because they fit in your mold of people you dont like. Which in an unfortunate irony IS THE PROBLEM!
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I believe that is because the right has stereotyped everyone who votes Democrat into some cute little package they can hate. They are either a worthless welfare recipient, a hippie, a gay rights activist or a supporter of illegal immigration.

They ignore there are millions of average everyday Americans, many who are educated and successful, who find them self in the middle. They may agree economically, agree with the Republicans military policy but they are turned off by some of the hard line stances on civil freedoms.

Many conservatives are passionate about the 2A, many on the fence are just as passionate over other freedoms the conservatives want to limit in the name of 'religious morals'.
Great post, the populace is against the party that wants to legislate who they love and what someone does with their bodies. Maybe during the heyday of the KKK the republicans actually spoke for the majority but in today's times people enjoy personal freedom. The republican party and it's agenda is becoming less and less relevant and they just don't seem to get it....except for the day after the election.
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That is A reality but not enough of a reality to elect someone.

Casting a wider net and having a bigger tent is the other part of that reality.

Again, until people understand the entire issue and the true reality of the entire issue, instead of just saying "They want socialism" or "they want their handouts..." or "they are poo-poo heads...." You will never be able to confront them and fix the problem with how you have confronted them in the past.

Scores upon scores of middle class, single women and housewives voted Democrat. These are not the "gimme" or 'socialist" crowd. These are people who feel the Republican party really is engages in a war against women. That they are the true enemy of freedom.

You cant cover that up with "They are stupid socialist who want want want...."
Yes, they feel, not think that the Republican party is engaging in a war against women because the Republicans won't play the same game that the Dems play in terms of the media. Not to metion that the media through celebrities parrot the same mantra. Republicans don't respond or they don'r respond strongly enough.

They are illegerate in that they will not do the basic research to see were the candidates stand on issues. Instead they make decisions based on soundbytes and the resulting emotions.

Do you know what I'm talking about when I say illegeracy?
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You (and many like you) keep saying the same thing over and over again. "They are stupid socialist who will take and take"

Yeah, that is some of it....but that isnt all of it. You are going to have to open your eyes to the other people who are vote democrate because they feel alienated by the Republicans, NOT because they fit in your mold of people you dont like. Which in an unfortunate irony IS THE PROBLEM!
Illegerate people FEEL, they don't think.
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