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Old 11-08-2012, 00:35   #41
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It's all about keeping the *******s that have voted for the demise and further despotism of America from feeling any pain through debt.
My, my...we're a little testy the morning after the election. I guess that tsunami of write-in votes for Ron Paul didn't carry him into the White House.

I'm thinking that Johnson split the doper vote. RP was robbed, I tell ya.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:34   #42
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:39   #43
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Why Romney lost
Because the American people saw right through him. Just the stupid comments alone about women and rape lost him votes.

He didn't even win in his own states ..what the hell does that tell ya?
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:24   #44
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Why Romney lost
Because the American people saw right through him. Just the stupid comments alone about women and rape lost him votes.

He didn't even win in his own states ..what the hell does that tell ya?
Ever since Romney set his sights on the White House his views became ever more extreme. As my friend from Massachusetts said, the Mitt in the first two years as Governor would not recognize the Mitt in the last two years as Governor. That is how much he flip-flopped on himself while in office and hence led to his departure. The fact that he was never going to win a second term as Governor should have been the Republican's first clue to not back him. The people saw the goods and did not like them -- why in the hell would the American people want Massachusetts's crappy leftovers.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:59   #45
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Romney lost because he's OBAMA LITE and a lot of people just aren't into "LITE".

ruble noon's assertion that "conservatism" means you need to be pro-abortion, pro-"whatever" marriage, is wrong. Last I checked being a conservative meant having some basic moral values. You want no morals - the democrats will welcome you with open arms! Just leave those 20oz. soda's at the door....
You don't have to be pro abortion, pro gay, to be conservative you have to be pro small government. Using the government to enforce social issues is not small government.
You can have all the morals you want. You can even run around with Fred Phelps and shout god hates fags at military funerals if that's what trips your trigger, just keep social issues out of politics on a national level.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:14   #46
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Republicans said repeatedly that they would vote for a "ham sandwich" against Obama. So that's exactly what they got as a leader: a ham sandwich. The GOP changes one way, an one way only: when they must earn your vote. You give it away for nothing, hence no change coming.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:32   #47
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Funny nobody ever mentions responsibility when they throw that word around. I guess some folks don't connect the two.
I am responsible for myself and my family. What other responsibilites are you referring to? Paying for some old stranger's retirement?
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:34   #48
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2) The GOP did not correctly gauge a rapidly changing demographic
Ding ding ding... We have a winner right here.

Everyone thought the large Hispanic, black and youth vote that turned out in 2008 for 0bama was a one time thing. He was new, fresh and promised a lot. But they'd be disappointed and stay home this time was the conventional wisdom. WRONG!

What this election showed is that the larger turn out of these groups is the new normal. The number of Hispanics that voted this time was up 2% and will continue to grow. Every year, more young people that have spent their lives being indoctrinated by left wing liberal educators become eligible to vote. And the older conservative voters are just dying off.

Sadly, the die is cast and the numbers favor a move to socialism. That someone like 0bama, with his record of the last four years could win so decisively, hammered the point home.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:10   #49
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Great post, Ruble. But the moral conservative base is so strong in the GOP, is there any way to make that shift without losing that support?
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:24   #50
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if anyone thinks the last 4 years america lost values/freedoms... wait for the results of the next 4 years of the kenyan negro that wants to be a king.. the last 4 years will look like a walk in the park..
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:27   #51
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Great post, Ruble. But the moral conservative base is so strong in the GOP, is there any way to make that shift without losing that support?
The religious right is not the powerhouse that it once was and even within their ranks their ideology is shifting. Look at the Catholic nuns that went out campaigning for contraception. A lot of people think Tuesday's election was a referendum on conservatism, I see it differently. I see it as a referendum on neo conservatism, something some of us have been fighting against since '92 and before.
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2) The GOP did not correctly gauge a rapidly changing demographic
Are you saying blacks and hispanics vote based on the free stuff they can get?
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The whole abortion issue is a rope-a-dope that the GOP falls into every time. I am pro life as well. However I also recognize that I am pro life because of MY beliefs. I don't want others imposing their beliefs on me, nor do I want to impose mine on them. I will get my message / opinion out to support pro life decisions. However if some people choose to have abortions as a means of birth control, then they have that option. It won't be me that judges them.

Yet time & time again, the issue comes up in the election. When it came up this time, Romney should have just said - 'my beliefs are irrelevant and won't be discussed. Abortion should be a state-level issue that is decided by the people in that state. It's not a Federal issue. End of story.'
I've been saying the same thing for +25 years and I'm a Liberial.

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:23   #54
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How is Chris Matthews gonna get that special feeling up his "leg" when Obama's gone in 2016?
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:33   #55
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All good reasons why mitt lost. Maybe next time the GOP will put up the perfect candidate.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:42   #56
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3 million GOP voters didn't show up. GOP turnout was down. Dem turnout was also down, but the GOP decrease was catastrophic. The gull to shove McCain out in 08, the blaming of Palin for the loss, the intractability of new corresponding pockets of voters (libertarians, Santorum voters, and lots that have just written off the GOP by not voting), the belief in Obama's inevitability, the fatigue of 4 years of endless Obama coverage and fawning press, and the shift of the "moderate" electorate due to Hurricane Sandy did the work.

I just hope the cannibalization of the GOP electorate over perceived transgressions decays away under a new commitment to each other and American values. Otherwise we will we go the way of Europe. I still have hope in America.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:57   #57
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Ahh, the perfect candidate.
If I ran I would be the perfect candidate for myself.
If you ran you would be the perfect candidate for yourself.
I think we should shoot for a candidate that doesn't suck.
I think we should quit looking to past losers to become future winners.
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Ahh, the perfect candidate.
If I ran I would be the perfect candidate for myself.
If you ran you would be the perfect candidate for yourself.
I think we should shoot for a candidate that doesn't suck.
I think we should quit looking to past losers to become future winners.
Including Ron Paul.
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Including Ron Paul.
Yes, including Ron Paul. The man is not marketable, his ideas are.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:14   #60
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Yes, including Ron Paul. The man is not marketable, his ideas are.
Um no. They're not.

Not ALL of them.

Some of them are great!

Some of them best be left in the boxcar the crazy train is pulling.

And whoever harvests just the good ideas best define the opponent before they define him or we will be on the sidelines again.
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