[Brandon35]

Hey everyone what is your most accurate reliable load for your 19's? How tight are your groups? Looking for great loads since none of my handguns seems to shoot very accurate....until someone else shoots them.

[Tkz]

Just made it thru my first pound of powder, so don't know about favorite since I'm new to reloading, but I have been happy with 4.5 g of Bullseye, cci primers, 115 Berry's round nose, and seated to 1.14.

[Steve Koski]

4.3 TG under 115's
4.0 TG under 124's
3.3 TG under 147's

[Steve Koski]

By the way, I'm voting for Four Grains Titegroup (FGT) for president next go around.

[Kentguy]

Brandon35,

My G19 (for the most part) stays in my night stand for those who decide to come calling at 2:00am. For 9mm home/self defense and target I prefer the 124g bullet, my Glocks seem to run best with that grain bullet, so I stick with that.

There are quite a few powders that run well for 9mm regardless of the application. I have tested the following load for a Home/Self Defense application, and I like the results out of my G19.

Case - Remington + P (new) Any good cleaned used casings will do if you are going to just run tests.
Case length - .754"
Primer - Federal SP #100
Bullet - 124g XTP JHP .355" dia. (Hornady)
Bullet length - .575"
Powder - Winchester "AutoComp"- 4.5g
Powder range - 4.2g up to 4.9g (Hornady)
Powder burn rate - #36 (Hodgdon's burn rate chart)
Velocity - 1,030.6 fps my 5 shot average @ 73 degrees
Crimp - Light
Bullet seating OAL - 1.060"
Test gun - G19 w/4.02" barrel

At 7 & 15 yards I can hit center mass most every time with a quick draw and from a standing free hand (stop & take aim) on a good day I can do 2"-3" group... on a good day.

[byf43]

CCI Blazer (aluminum).

15 yards. Standing, two hands, "Modified Weaver" stance.
15 rounds.
FIRST magazine full shot out of this pistol!!!!!!!
(Sorry. Crappy cellphone pic!)

I was using a 6 o'Clock hold. That is incorrect for this pistol.
Where the top of the front sight is. . . . that's where the bullet goes.

[Brandon35]

It sounds like tite group is the winner so far for powders. My dad loves it for 45 acp, but didnt know it was so liked for 9mm. How accurate does the powder throw in rcbs powder throwers? I have been using aa no.7 since I had it on hand for my 40.

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by Brandon35

Hey everyone what is your most accurate reliable load for your 19's? How tight are your groups? Looking for great loads since none of my handguns seems to shoot very accurate....until someone else shoots them.

This kind of question always makes me smile a bit. What is acceptable accuracy for you? What I shoot in my gun really has little bearing on your gun & ability. For me, sub 2" @ 50ft is good accuracy, sub 1 1/2" @ 50ft is what I strive for in any good service pistol.
I wouldn't use TG if it were free. Really good 9mm powders for full upper midrange to full power ammo start w/ W231 & go slower. For me, Unique or WSF, doesn't get much better.

[TX Archer]

Originally Posted by Brandon35

It sounds like tite group is the winner so far for powders. My dad loves it for 45 acp, but didnt know it was so liked for 9mm. How accurate does the powder throw in rcbs powder throwers? I have been using aa no.7 since I had it on hand for my 40.

Three people answered with a powder they like. One was Titegroup. How did it become the winner?

[twobyfour]

Precision Delta 124 gr FMJ
Mixed cases
5.7 gr Ramshot Silhouette
CCI 500 primer
1.15 OAL

Around 20 K loaded in the last couple of years, great load for my Glocks and my buddy's MP5.

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by fredj338

...I wouldn't use TG if it were free...

[Brandon35]

So txarcher was right. I saw posts about tg being good. Didn't even notice it was the same person that posted. No winner yet Anyone like aa no 7 for. 9mm? For those of you that 9mm minor is there one powder more favored by people where you shoot? I know every gun prefers different loads even if the guns are the exact same guns being compared but I have noticed with reloading that my dads 308 and mine (same gun) prefer the same powders, bullets, and primers just slightly diff charge weight. Same w our ar's which are also identical. Our 308's love rl15. The ar's love h335. Too bad I can't use them in 9mm. I am in love with those two powders. Jk

[CaptainXL]

Out of a G34 and also a G27 with a LW conversion barrel. 1" to 1.25" groups at 15 yards shooting from a rest with the G34. 1.75" to 2" groups with the G27/LW conversion barrel at 15 yards shooting from a rest. Don't have a chrono so can't give any info on PF or speed.

MG 124gr JHP
5.6 gr Ramshot True Blue
1.115 C.O.L.
Fed or CCI SP primers (Don't like Winchester primers)

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by Brandon35

...For those of you that 9mm minor is there one powder more favored by people where you shoot? ...

I load for competition (only). For me (and me alone, apparently), it's VV N320 which gives me a soft shooting load with a PF of ~130 with a 147gr bullet. 320 is a fast powder, but not as fast as TG. It:

meters well (in my 650)
is virtually smokeless and flashless
as clean as any powder you'll see, and
exhibits no measurable temperature effect on velocity between 45-105 degrees.

As for accuracy, I get fist size groups shooting offhand at 35 yds in IDPA and can hit bleach bottle sized targets at 75 yds all day. Never did significant testing on a rest.

Only problem with 320 is that you can nearly never find it in stock (if it's carried at all), and when you do, it's expensive.

I briefly used TG which I liked well enough and if there were no 320 in the world, I could see using it again. There is a recurring theme with Fred about his disdain for TG - especially when used by new reloaders. Hence, my above.

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by CaptainXL

Out of a G34 and also a G27 with a LW conversion barrel. 1" to 1.25" groups at 15 yards shooting from a rest with the G34. 1.75" to 2" groups with the G27/LW conversion barrel at 15 yards shooting from a rest. Don't have a chrono so can't give any info on PF or speed.

MG 124gr JHP
5.6 gr Ramshot True Blue
1.115 C.O.L.
Fed or CCI SP primers (Don't like Winchester primers)

I also use a MG 124 JHP, but with N320 for my unlimited G34 and that is also developed for a PF of ~130. (1050 fps)

I needed this load to run the compensator - otherwise it's a 147 gr (about 885 fps) for stock.

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by Brandon35

Anyone like aa no 7 for. 9mm? For those of you that 9mm minor is there one powder more favored by people where you shoot? Jk

About all TG is really good for is minor (bunnyfart) loads in service calibers, but I still don't like it. AA#7 is fine in 9mm for full power loads, but not much else.

Hey Sardg, nothing personal, lots of nice folks use TG, I am just not a fan. There are better choices for low vel loads IMO, WST or SOLO, even RD works better for me.

[Brandon35]

I've heard that vv powders are great, but like stated above its hard to find. I've been using aa no 7 and seems pretty good but has lots of muzzle flash. I can't get the 1 or 2" groups others are getting. My sights aren't target sights and even resting the pistol I can't get near that. Not good enough. Maybe resting my 35 but it has a better front sight and I have a 3 lb. trigger in it so it takes out some shooter error.

[Kwesi]

First vote for Power Pistol & 115 gr FMJ.

[Electrikkoolaid]

124gr. XTP

4.2 grains Power Pistol

YMMV.

(Supreme accuracy is not a consideration when in full-blown "OH ####" mode at defensive distances, so I don't worry about it.)

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by Brandon35

I've heard that vv powders are great, but like stated above its hard to find...

Powder Valley has N320 in stock. I just ordered 'some'.

[Hoser]

I like Titegroup and 124 Montana Gold JHPs.

124 JHP
4.0 TG
Federal Primers
Mixed Brass
1.130 OAL.

In 1911 style pistols, I load longer. This load is for small frame guns like Glocks and M&Ps.

[biggun1911]

Originally Posted by SARDG

I load for competition (only). For me (and me alone, apparently), it's VV N320 which gives me a soft shooting load with a PF of ~130 with a 147gr bullet. 320 is a fast powder, but not as fast as TG. It:

meters well (in my 650)
is virtually smokeless and flashless
as clean as any powder you'll see, and
exhibits no measurable temperature effect on velocity between 45-105 degrees.

As for accuracy, I get fist size groups shooting offhand at 35 yds in IDPA and can hit bleach bottle sized targets at 75 yds all day. Never did significant testing on a rest.

Only problem with 320 is that you can nearly never find it in stock (if it's carried at all), and when you do, it's expensive.

I briefly used TG which I liked well enough and if there were no 320 in the world, I could see using it again. There is a recurring theme with Fred about his disdain for TG - especially when used by new reloaders. Hence, my above.

I Use 4.2 grains vv320 with 115 grain berry's bullet. I have not used the 147 grain bullet because I could not find load data. What is your load data for the 147 grain.

I am using a Dillon 550 and the vv320 meters very well.

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by biggun1911

I Use 4.2 grains vv320 with 115 grain berry's bullet. I have not used the 147 grain bullet because I could not find load data. What is your load data for the 147 grain...

Apparently, plated bullet data doesn't really exist and reloaders have to begin with loads between lead and jacketed and work up their own. I have never used plated, and likely never will, so my data is for jacketed and you would presumably download from that.

147gr MG CMJ
3.6gr N320
1.136 OAL
Fed SPP
Starline brass

As Richard says about his recipe posts... don't trust my recipe posts without comparing to published data. I once typed a crimp of 1.377" on here and I'm pretty sure that isn't correct for a 9mil.

[shotgunred]

4.7 gr of WSF Under a 124 gr with an OAL of 1.125 works pretty nice.

No one local has any vv powders.

[SARDG]

Originally Posted by shotgunred

...No one local has any vv powders.

...figures.