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Old 11-11-2012, 22:41   #81
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Abortion and GOD both need to be shown the door, as both have long over stayed their welcome.

Our message should be very simple:

All this stuff you are being promised is well and good, but...WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT???

Look in the mirror, because with our debt simply taxing the rich is not going to cover it. Everybody is going to have start paying. No more getting everything back when you file your returns nonsense.
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:42   #82
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The evangelicals do pose a threat to liberty.
How???
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:43   #83
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The evangelicals do pose a threat to liberty.
This ought to be good.

Educate me.
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:43   #84
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Okay, he was against the government paying for abortions and that abortion should be safe & legal. There is data on his personal opinion but his personal beliefs don't seem to affect how he acts to get elected.
Any quotes on the rest? I'm really interested to see his anti-gay agenda when he appointed gay-rights activists as judges. (Not that it would support the flip/flop case or anything.)
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:45   #85
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Hmm, trying to force our women to not be able to make decisions for themselves by making abortion illegal. Trying to force schools to only teach creationism, instead of also teaching evolution. Trying to force schools to not educate the kids about contraceptives, and force them to only teach abstinence. The list really does go on and on.
Now what the hell are you talking about? What world do you live in?
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:45   #86
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and the GOP can make up the difference with independent or minority votes.
I think I would consider the religious right independent voters. They apparently don't have any ties that make them come out and vote for republicans every time regardless of the candidate. The republican party seem to count them as guaranteed votes and part of their base, but experience should show the republicans that the religious right aren't necessarily votes they can take for granted.

So maybe the answer is to court the religious right, and at least pay them lip service. Much like the democrats do black folks.
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:52   #87
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I maintain that until the Republicans ditch the Christian Conservative nonsense, we'll never win another election.

When I'm talking to my fellow Republicans, none of them ever mentions abortion, birth control, gay marriage, or marijuana.

The times have changed, if we don't, we'll end up like the dinosaurs. They were unwilling to change too.

What say you?
You ditched Conservative Christians back in 2008, and in 2012 you went it alone without us. How is that working out for you?
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:52   #88
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Listen, I already know who I'm voting for in 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028...

And it aint the Dem's.
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:55   #89
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I think I would consider the religious right independent voters. They apparently don't have any ties that make them come out and vote for republicans every time regardless of the candidate. The republican party seem to count them as guaranteed votes and part of their base, but experience should show the republicans that the religious right aren't necessarily votes they can take for granted.
There we go. Finally.

Those of us of faith are able to separate the issues, think, and vote independently, thank you very much. BTW, there are liberal evangelicals as well, but the Dems don't like to talk about it.

And as such, guess what? Many church goers vote Dem as well! Suprise!

If you want more to vote Democratic, feel free to make a big deal out of specifically excluding them.

Good luck. From the looks of most high minded thinkers here, most are well on their way to success. (?.....)
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You ditched Conservative Christians back in 2008, and in 2012 you went it alone without us. How is that working out for you?
About the same as 2008, sorry to say but you're irrelevant.

Keep espousing stone-age views, and you'll go the way of the Neanderthals. Oh that's right, the world is only 4000 years old
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:57   #91
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About the same as 2008, sorry to say but you're irrelevant.

Keep espousing stone-age views, and you'll go the way of the Neanderthals. Oh that's right, the world is only 4000 years old
And there you have it. A losers mentality. You guys don't exactly learn from experience, do you?
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With the media the bias the way it is, they have/are/will run the same biased stories over and over again until if becomes the truth.

If there is a conservative woman running she will be demonized.

If a minority is a conservative, they are racist, against their own.

Not only that it's tough to convince people to vote against someone bearing/promising no-strings-attached .gov freebees.
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Old 11-11-2012, 23:04   #94
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How???
The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The crime category with the highest percentage... you guessed it -drugs. More people are in prison for drug related offenses at the state and federal level than for violent crime. Canada's rate is about 1/7 of ours. Has it led to social disorder and decay? I don't know, it certainly hasn't lead to lower math and science scores.
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The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The crime category with the highest percentage... you guessed it -drugs. More people are in prison for drug related offenses at the state and federal level than for violent crime. Canada's rate is about 1/7 of ours. Has it led to social disorder and decay? I don't know, it certainly hasn't lead to lower math and science scores.
You said that evangelicals are a threat to liberty, and he asked you "How?".

So......your answer is drug enforcement?
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Old 11-11-2012, 23:17   #96
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I think I would consider the religious right independent voters.
I don't know about that.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/07/p...012-over-2008/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...rimary-voters/
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Old 11-11-2012, 23:23   #97
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You said that evangelicals are a threat to liberty, and he asked you "How?".

So......your answer is drug enforcement?
Come up with a better question.
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I'm voting Republican no matter what, can Evangelical Christians say the same thing?
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Old 11-11-2012, 23:34   #99
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I maintain that until the Republicans ditch the Christian Conservative nonsense, we'll never win another election.

When I'm talking to my fellow Republicans, none of them ever mentions abortion, birth control, gay marriage, or marijuana.

The times have changed, if we don't, we'll end up like the dinosaurs. They were unwilling to change too.

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Agreed.
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Come up with a better question.
Defend your statement.
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