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Old 02-02-2013, 00:28   #1
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suppressor

did not know which forum , so i post here

looking for my first suppressor , ofcourse 22 lr ,

from folks that have one , which are the best , for sound , cleaning ? etc

someone told me the AAC ELEMENT 2 WAS BEST ?

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Old 02-02-2013, 00:42   #2
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AAC Element isn't bad ...

I run an SS Sparrow ... I like the fact that it can be completely broken down and cleaned

Check out silencertalk.com -- Great site with lots of info! You may get lost there for days on end!

Good luck!
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:23   #3
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I would go with the Silencerco Sparrow SS, which is about $450-500.

I have a Huntertown Arms Kestrel .22, and shot back-to-back with a Sparrow SS, I couldn't tell a difference.

The Huntertown Kestrel .22 has stainless steel baffles, and is completely user serviceable as well. I paid $325 for my Kestrel .22

Its also rated for 5.7x28 if your into that.

The Silencerco Sparrow, however, is pretty much one of the best though. I bought the Kestrel .22 because I wanted to have money left over for the Silencerco Osprey 45 I bought the same day.
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Keep in mind that finding sub-sonic ammo for it could be tough depending on where you are.
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Keep in mind that finding sub-sonic ammo for it could be tough depending on where you are.
Pretty much all .22LR is sub-sonic when shot through a pistol; most .22LR ammunition is made with a 16"+ barrel in mind for the advertised velocities.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:55   #6
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For a general purpose .22 suppressor I am seriously considering this one:

http://www.huntertownarms.com/k556.php

It is slightly larger, heavier, and $100 more expensive than the Kestrel .22 mentioned earlier, but is suitable for the 5.56/.223 as well as rimfire s.

http://www.huntertownarms.com/kestrel22.php


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Incidentally I bought a Ruger Charger with an integral suppressor built into the barrel. In hindsight I should have purchased a detachable unit.


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Old 02-02-2013, 19:49   #9
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cool thanks for info , will check em out
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Buddy of mine has a suppressor for his 9mm AR, but uses it on everything with 1/2/28 threads, including his 10/22. You can't tell the difference between a .22LR suppressor or a 9mm suppressor side by side.

So buy the 9mm and shoot the .22 through it.

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did not know which forum , so i post here

looking for my first suppressor , ofcourse 22 lr ,

from folks that have one , which are the best , for sound , cleaning ? etc

someone told me the AAC ELEMENT 2 WAS BEST ?

I am going to ask a few question to help me help you.

Why 22LR?
What gun/guns did you plan on using?

When you say BEST, what do you mean?
What is your criteria?

What experience do you have around suppressors?

SilencerTalk was great, now not so much. There is knowledge, but there is so much garbage to sort through.

What centerfire pistol cartridges do you shoot? 9mm, 40, 45acp?
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Old 02-02-2013, 20:36   #12
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I have the Gemtech Alpine and I like it very much. Easy to clean and very quiet.....not that you can tell in the following video due to all the guns around me!

PLEASE NOTE: On the first two shots and the last shot I fired at the exact same time as someone down the line, so it sounds like my gun is loud, IT'S NOT.


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Old 02-02-2013, 23:01   #13
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You will find most people prefer a pistol barrel 4.5 in to keep bulk pack sub-sonic. I mostly just shoot CCI Standard Velocity it stays sub-sonic in my rifles and pistols.

I love my Ruger 22/45 w/Pac-Lite barrel and SWR Spectre. Added a Volquartsen trigger kit and it is amazing.

I also agree that silencer talk has lost it's flavor but still some good info on there.

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Buddy of mine has a suppressor for his 9mm AR, but uses it on everything with 1/2/28 threads, including his 10/22. You can't tell the difference between a .22LR suppressor or a 9mm suppressor side by side.

So buy the 9mm and shoot the .22 through it.

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

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That's a bad idea unless said 9mm suppressor is user serviceable.

Even then, its not gonna suppress anywhere near as well as a dedicated .22LR suppressor, and you're gonna have LOTS of fun cleaning the lead buildup from the baffles.

In the world of NFA toys, you get what you pay for, and you're all but stuck with what you buy.

You can get away with shooting sub-caliber through a centerfire suppressor, however, its a bad idea to shoot rimfire through a centerfire suppressor as sub-caliber.
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Even then, its not gonna suppress anywhere near as well as a dedicated .22LR suppressor, and you're gonna have LOTS of fun cleaning the lead buildup from the baffles.

In the world of NFA toys, you get what you pay for, and you're all but stuck with what you buy.

You can get away with shooting sub-caliber through a centerfire suppressor, however, its a bad idea to shoot rimfire through a centerfire suppressor as sub-caliber.
It depends on what the end user wants to do.

Remember this is the end users FIRST and ONLY suppressor.

Yes, a dedicated 22LR suppressor is quieter than the a 9mm, but after a while the 22LR is just a 22LR, while some other suppressors are more flexible.
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Remember this is the end users FIRST and ONLY suppressor.
"Only" is a very temporary term in NFA, at least from my experience. Those stamps have a nasty habit of multiplying.

For a first suppressor, I would definitely recommend getting a .22 LR if you have never shot a suppressed gun before. They are the closest to "Hollywood Quiet" that you will find and are generally on the less expensive side as far as cans go. If you have friends with suppressors, tag along with them to the range and try them out and see if you would want to go down that road before you spend the money yourself.

My first suppressor was a TAC-65 .22 LR can. I got it because the local dealer had it in stock. Knowing what I know now, if I were to get another .22 LR can, it would most likely be a Silencerco Sparrow. I think being user serviceable and a stainless steel baffle stack are a must for a .22 LR can these days. I loathe having to clean the lead deposits off my aluminum baffles with an exacto knife, but I can't dip them without dissolving the baffles themselves.
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I've surprised many NFA people with how quiet my Gemtech Outback II-D is. Got it for $300 back in '06 (plus stamp of course) and recently upgraded it through Gemtech for $145. They replaced steel internals with aluminum and cut off about a half inch of the outer steel tube to make it user serviceable.


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Anybody make an integral barrel-suppressor that trades on and off of a High Standard 'Military' (Supermatic Citation) ?

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I am going to ask a few question to help me help you.

Why 22LR?
What gun/guns did you plan on using?

When you say BEST, what do you mean?
What is your criteria?

What experience do you have around suppressors?

SilencerTalk was great, now not so much. There is knowledge, but there is so much garbage to sort through.

What centerfire pistol cartridges do you shoot? 9mm, 40, 45acp?
be used on a ruger

best meaning quietest and clean easily

no experience

yeah that forum makes you more confused
ive been looking up suppressors on youtube mainly watching how different ones sound ,etc etc

i own several 9mm, 40 ,45 im just looking for a 22 to plink around the house, we have alot of land so being quiet is not that big of deal , but ive always wanted one
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"Only" is a very temporary term in NFA, at least from my experience. Those stamps have a nasty habit of multiplying.
Yes, but where to start.

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i own several 9mm, 40 ,45 im just looking for a 22 to plink around the house, we have alot of land so being quiet is not that big of deal , but ive always wanted one
If you are going to collect a complete set, then get a X, then 22LR, then 9mm, then 45ACP, then ...... These will be the most quiet suppressors around. But it will cost you an arm and a leg for all of them.

If on the other hand you would like to start off with one that is pretty good to use with alot.....
http://www.libertycans.net/mystic.html

I have 3 suppressors now. I wish I had started off with something like the Liberty suppressor, and then started getting specific suppressor. I probably would not have gotten a 22lr specific suppressor, but would have a 308 and a 45ACP and a dedicated 9mm.
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