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11-11-2012, 17:34
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11-11-2012, 17:48
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Isn't the most basic, fundamental (whatever) right/liberty, to do as you please with your own life? Assisted suicide gets voted down. I don't know what is worse: this or slavery.
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11-11-2012, 18:03
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People can do whatever they want legally behind close doors! Why the hell do we want it shoved down out throats and told we have to agree that is ok or the norm! Its not normal and never will be!! Whats good is now evil and evil is now good!! Sad! The beginning of the end my friends!
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11-11-2012, 18:08
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Originally Posted by mad220860
People can do whatever they want legally behind close doors! Why the hell do we want it shoved down out throats and told we have to agree that is ok or the norm! Its not normal and never will be!! Whats good is now evil and evil is now good!! Sad! The beginning of the end my friends!
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The way things are going, are you praying for the end to come really, really quick?
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11-11-2012, 18:17
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Originally Posted by mad220860
People can do whatever they want legally behind close doors! Why the hell do we want it shoved down out throats and told we have to agree that is ok or the norm! Its not normal and never will be!! Whats good is now evil and evil is now good!! Sad! The beginning of the end my friends!
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Not if what they want is to smoke a joint or be legally married to someone of the same sex behind closed doors in most states. If gay people having equal rights is "shoving it down your throats" then all the churches and crosses and religious idiots I have to see or listen to is god being shoved down my throat.
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11-11-2012, 18:31
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People can do whatever they want legally behind close doors! Why the hell do we want it shoved down out throats and told we have to agree
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That's exactly how we feel about religion. So suck it up and deal with it.
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11-11-2012, 19:07
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Originally Posted by hogfish
Isn't the most basic, fundamental (whatever) right/liberty, to do as you please with your own life? Assisted suicide gets voted down. I don't know what is worse: this or slavery.

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Agreed, there are lots of religious people who want to make beginning of life and end of life decisions for everybody.
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11-13-2012, 13:33
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If I were to lie with another man, I'd have to be pretty stoned.
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11-13-2012, 15:02
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Not if what they want is to smoke a joint or be legally married to someone of the same sex behind closed doors in most states. If gay people having equal rights is "shoving it down your throats" then all the churches and crosses and religious idiots I have to see or listen to is god being shoved down my throat.
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Most of the libs are lazy leeches. But there are a few who just won't be happy unless the country goes to hell so they can smoke dope, have gay sex, and murder babies. You fall into the latter category. Quite sick.
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11-13-2012, 15:22
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Originally Posted by Brasso
Most of the libs are lazy leeches.
But there are a few who just won't be happy unless the country goes to hell so they can smoke dope, have gay sex, and murder babies. You fall into the latter category. Quite sick.
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I realize that's a common mantra among the far right, but do you have any evidence to support that? Until I see some evidence I'll have to assume it's just a self indulgent rant by people whose opinions have become irrelevant.
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11-13-2012, 15:49
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Originally Posted by Brasso
Most of the libs are lazy leeches. But there are a few who just won't be happy unless the country goes to hell so they can smoke dope, have gay sex, and murder babies. You fall into the latter category. Quite sick.
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I obviously don't visit this forum enough to not be surprised and astonished at this post of yours.
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11-13-2012, 17:35
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Quite sick.
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I believe "sick" is the illness that makes us hate people that are different from us. "Sick" needs a cure(according to God's Word) but our judgement doesnt heal anything. It only distracts us from our own illness.Most of the time when we judge another its time to examine ourselves because we are the ones in need of healing.
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11-13-2012, 17:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brasso
Most of the libs are lazy leeches. But there are a few who just won't be happy unless the country goes to hell so they can smoke dope, have gay sex, and murder babies. You fall into the latter category. Quite sick.
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That's the most judgmental BS I've seen in a long time. Sooooooooo glad you holier than thou twerps are dying out. No judgment, just hurry up and get your ass in the ground so the rest of us don't even have to listen to your stupid opinions anymore.
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11-13-2012, 18:56
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Really? Seems all I hear from you guys how you hate conservative because they don't want you to do those exact things. Am I wrong? Or do you just not like to look the truth in the face? Not put politically correct enough for you?
OK.
-You just want woman to have a choice (whether their babies live or not)
-No one should tell you what to put into your body. (Nevermind the kids that will have more access to it).
-If you want to go to bed with the same sex, you should be able to. (And then have a naked sex parade down main street so the rest of us know it)
Is that better?
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11-13-2012, 19:05
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11-13-2012, 20:28
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Originally Posted by Brasso
Really? Seems all I hear from you guys how you hate conservative because they don't want you to do those exact things. Am I wrong? Or do you just not like to look the truth in the face? Not put politically correct enough for you?
OK.
-You just want woman to have a choice (whether their babies live or not)
-No one should tell you what to put into your body. (Nevermind the kids that will have more access to it).
-If you want to go to bed with the same sex, you should be able to. (And then have a naked sex parade down main street so the rest of us know it)
Is that better?
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-7 billion people in this world. That's 7,000,000,000. Not enough for you yet? Why doesn't the anti-choice crowd seem to care much about these babies after they're born? The side that screams loudest about the life of a child before birth is the same side that will be the first to vote against school lunch programs, food stamps, public education, government health care for children, gays adopting children, etc. When you start showing some real compassion for children then maybe you'll be taken seriously. Lame social conservative argument countered. This is why you're becoming more and more irrelevant.
-Seriously? Kids will have easier access to it once it's legal and sold by people that have a license to worry about like alcohol and cigarettes instead of just by whoever feels like dealing? Wow. Lame social conservative argument countered. This is why you're becoming more and more irrelevant.
-I imagine a real naked sex parade down Main street would be subject to public indecency laws. Besides, those flaming gay parades are basically the extreme fringe of the gay community. The vast majority of gay people that you interact with on a daily basis go completely unnoticed by you because they look just like everybody else. Guess I'll just go ahead and lump you in with the wacky fringe WBC clan since you're both religious and outspoken about it. Lame social conservative argument countered. This is why you're becoming more and more irrelevant.
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11-13-2012, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Brasso
No one should tell you what to put into your body. (Nevermind the kids that will have more access to it).
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Let's see how that holds up... No one should tell you that you can't have a gun, never mind all the kids that will be killed with them. Or perhaps, never mind all the gang bangers that will have more access to them.
Do you find that to be a compelling line of reasoning?
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11-13-2012, 22:23
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Originally Posted by Brasso
Most of the libs are lazy leeches. But there are a few who just won't be happy unless the country goes to hell so they can smoke dope, have gay sex, and murder babies. You fall into the latter category. Quite sick.
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Ah yes the new world order is gonna be sweet. I can't wait to bang two married bi chicks while feasting on fried baby necks.
Hurry up and get your life over with so we can get this party started. And there ain't gonna be a god around to do squat about it. It's gonna be heaven on earth.
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11-13-2012, 22:36
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Ah yes the new world order is gonna be sweet. I can't wait to bang two married bi chicks while feasting on fried baby necks.
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11-14-2012, 05:48
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I can't help it that you're degenerates.
What makes your opinion more valid than mine, or the past thousands of years of human history for that matter? Why are you right and myself and rest of human history wrong?
You have no more right to demand babies be murdered than I do to defend them.
You have no more right to demand free drug use than I do to curtail it.
You have no more right to demand gay marriage be legal as I do to say it should be illegal.
You're shocked at what I said?
I'm shocked and disgusted at your beliefs.
Get over it. What a buch of whiny babies.
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11-14-2012, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Brasso
What makes your opinion more valid than mine, or the past thousands of years of human history for that matter? Why are you right and myself and rest of human history wrong?
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Because you seek to oppress individual liberty in the name of god and we seek to protect it.
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11-14-2012, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Brasso
I can't help it that you're degenerates.
What makes your opinion more valid than mine, or the past thousands of years of human history for that matter? Why are you right and myself and rest of human history wrong?
You have no more right to demand babies be murdered than I do to defend them.
You have no more right to demand free drug use than I do to curtail it.
You have no more right to demand gay marriage be legal as I do to say it should be illegal.
You're shocked at what I said?
I'm shocked and disgusted at your beliefs.
Get over it. What a buch of whiny babies.
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Oppression vs. freedom.
When people think of rights, they generally don't consider 'the right to oppress', unless you're talking about sharia, communism, etc.
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11-14-2012, 09:51
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Originally Posted by Brasso
What makes your opinion more valid than mine, or the past thousands of years of human history for that matter? Why are you right and myself and rest of human history wrong?
You have no more right to demand babies be murdered than I do to defend them.
You have no more right to demand free drug use than I do to curtail it.
You have no more right to demand gay marriage be legal as I do to say it should be illegal.
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You have no more right to a gun than somebody else has to live in a gun-free society.
You have no more right to a heterosexual marriage than somebody has to live free of icky heteros.
Fat people have no more right to wear spandex than other people have the right to live free of such a sight.
You have no more right to your zany superstition than others have the right to live in a society free of zany superstitions.
Do you really not see how ridiculous your argument is?
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I'm shocked and disgusted at your beliefs.
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I'm not at all shocked, though still quite disgusted by your beliefs.
-ArtificialGrape
BTW, would you care to show anybody here demanding that babies be murdered, or can we just save some time and agree that you're talking out of your ass?
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11-14-2012, 10:02
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I can't help it that you're degenerates.
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This is why you need to go. You don't like humanity. You sit in judgement of others. You are dead weight that humanity is tried having hung around its neck. Your time is done here. It's over. You've lost.
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What makes your opinion more valid than mine, or the past thousands of years of human history for that matter? Why are you right and myself and rest of human history wrong?
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Because ours favors freedom, liberty and progress. Yours favors oppression, slavery to archaic nonsense, and a self hatred for simply being human.
(I want to touch a woman.) "THAT'S SINFUL HATE YOURSELF FOR IT!" (I want get intoxicated on my F'ing free time with money I F'ing worked for.) "YOU'RE A DRUNKARD AND SINFUL HATE YOURSELF FOR IT!" (I want to be intimate with my chick and her girlfriend at the same time.) "THAT IS TOO MUCH HOTNESS FOR ONE MAN TO HAVE ALL TO HIMSELF... HATE YOURSELF FOR IT!"
We don't really care what you choose to believe. But we're tired of people like you trying to push it on us with legislation. You can be mad all you want and sit in your house a fester over it and hate us all you want. But you are going to get out of our way or we are going to move you out of our way.
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You have no more right to demand babies be murdered than I do to defend them.
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You are delusional if you think ANYONE is jumping up and down with joy over abortion. Until we as a people (ALL OF US) can fix the problem that abortion solves. It has to remain as a necessary evil. Until we can find a way to PREVENT 2 million unwanted babies a year from being born... we simply have no other choice. Because we can't afford to feed them and clothe them. I also think abortion is a terrible thing. But I'm not so blinded by an archaic mythology that I can't see why it's something that simply has to be available right now. It's awful, it's sad, it's heart breaking. But there is no other way right this second. We have to make changes as a society to make it unnecessary. We can't just make it illegal and everyone go F themselves. That's not gonna work. We have to make it unnecessary and it will simply go away on its own. This is another reason why we are right and you are wrong. You simply want to control people... damn the results. If the whole house catches on fire it's ok as long as everyone is obeying your god. Insanity
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You have no more right to demand free drug use than I do to curtail it.
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I just don't see the big deal. Pot is no worse than beer. No one is trying to legalize crack.
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You have no more right to demand gay marriage be legal as I do to say it should be illegal.
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Yes we do. Because we are championing freedom. You are championing oppression by archaic nonsense.
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I'm shocked and disgusted at your beliefs.
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As we yours... but we would choose to allow you to have yours so long as you stay out of our affairs. The same cannot be said for you. It isn't good enough that you live by your ridiculous nonsense... you want to make it the law of the land. You are an oppressor... and you are going to lose this fight. No one wants to force you to have a gay marriage. No one wants to prevent you from living your life how you choose. Yet you want to deny others the same courtesy. It won't stand. Look around... this nation is leaving you behind.
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