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11-16-2012, 01:21
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Aggressive Driver units
Back when I was around it was a white CVPI, then it was a gold Dodge Intrepid. I have seen Mustang GTs locally. No markings though.
http://www.allpar.com/squads/police-...hallenger.html
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11-16-2012, 01:41
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Ours in normal black and whites that were recently equipped with tag readers. The guys found and made an arrest on two stolen vehicles in the first month! This after years of the admin not believing they would work.
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11-16-2012, 04:09
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I've seen them use this for traffic and patrol and it is probably one of my favorite "marked" units. Unfortunately I can't display the photo.
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11-16-2012, 05:54
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11-16-2012, 06:32
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These "ghost" units as they're known around here, with shades-lighter markings, are effective. One local dept. has one with ALPRs on the trunk (which kind of gives up the stealth factor, but there are plenty of oblivious fish...)
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11-16-2012, 06:47
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I really don't see the point of a fully marked black-and-white Challenger... but the stealth version is pretty cool.
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11-16-2012, 07:29
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11-16-2012, 08:57
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"Leeper said the corporate donor who gave the Mercurys to the state has asked to remain anonymous."
http://www.flhsmv.gov/fhp/PhotoGalle...4/Marauder.htm
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11-16-2012, 09:19
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On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement. It took a few days and numerous 911 calls later for the motoring public to realize that they were actually Police vehicles.......I remember during the first week of deployment, a few motorist refused to yield / pull over...  ... It was interesting to see a uniformed officer conducting a traffic stop in a yellow taxi cab with a full light package on the side of the road. Needless to say it was extremely effective. I'm not sure if they're still being utilized.
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11-16-2012, 10:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveksux
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11-16-2012, 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajon412
On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement....
...I'm not sure if they're still being utilized.
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They are in NYC and surrounding suburbs.
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11-16-2012, 12:09
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There was a department in Ontario, Canada (it was either Halton Regional or Hamilton) that was utilizing a maroon CVPI, tinted windows with a white TAXI hat on the roof. The hat had the departments phone number printed on it  I'll see if I have a pic at home...
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11-16-2012, 12:47
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I'm sure my Cheif would be on board for the challenger. He's a huge mopar nut and wants a challenger of his own.
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11-16-2012, 13:07
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That gray Challenger sure was purty!
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11-17-2012, 01:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajon412
On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement. It took a few days and numerous 911 calls later for the motoring public to realize that they were actually Police vehicles.......I remember during the first week of deployment, a few motorist refused to yield / pull over... ... It was interesting to see a uniformed officer conducting a traffic stop in a yellow taxi cab with a full light package on the side of the road. Needless to say it was extremely effective. I'm not sure if they're still being utilized. |
NYPD was using them like crazy in manhattan when I was stationed there from 2005-07.
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11-17-2012, 16:35
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Ft. Bliss, TX used to use any captured civilian car as the point man car, and then they would light up with regular patrol car. Worked OK.
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11-17-2012, 19:03
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Found it
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11-17-2012, 19:04
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Seattle PD:
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11-17-2012, 20:46
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I would love to see one of those in action. When I am running around in my POV people are being flat out morons.
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11-18-2012, 15:58
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I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.
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11-18-2012, 16:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpa
I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.
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Much depends on the PR campaign that must go along with the use of these vehicles. PSAs that inform, educate, and remind the public that unmarked traffic enforcement vehicles are operating in a given jurisdiction, to let the motoring public know that these vehicles are legitimate law enforcement, that they are currently operating, and that zero tolerance is in effect for dangerous driving.
It removes the 'whacker element' for compliance, it lets the public know that the police may be watching from unexpected quarters, and gives ample warning to the public that bad and dangerous driving will be dealt with.
Done correctly, it can work on several levels. If a Sergeant just throws a unmarked unit at an officer on a whim and says 'bag everything you see', then a variety of problems could occur.
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Last edited by blueiron; 11-18-2012 at 16:19..
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11-18-2012, 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpa
I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.
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The vast majority of people wouldn't think twice about stopping. It's not really any different than when the B4C Camaros and SSP Mustangs were out there. Similar even to unmarked Dodge Chargers and Impalas today. I'm sure they're plenty effective.
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11-18-2012, 19:17
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From a previous thread:
Indiana State Police:
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11-19-2012, 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBigBR
From a previous thread:
Indiana State Police:
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Well, I can honestly say that if I was going to be a cop, I'd want to get in with Indiana State Police!
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11-19-2012, 14:49
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I think those are out of one of the east valley departments (I saw one in our parking lot), I do know it certainly ain't us.
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What crack pipe fever dream did that idiotic drivel come out of?
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