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Old 11-17-2012, 17:08   #26
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The pistols are crap. Let me find you a link...

Here it is:
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=72301&page=10 Look at the pics in post #197.
Yet somehow it beated out the IMBEL that was in the same trial. If the Colt trial ones were broken that badly, I'd hate to see what the IMBELs were like.
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Old 11-17-2012, 17:08   #27
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Lks like a painted Rail Gun to me,.........no thanks!
It is a painted Rail Gun.
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Old 11-17-2012, 18:19   #28
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It is a painted Rail Gun.
Yep,......looks like a painted Rail Gun, none for me!
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Old 11-17-2012, 21:47   #29
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Yep, comparing a $1500-1700 Valor to a stock Colt shows a significant difference for sure.
You're paying too much, I got mine for $1,350 delivered, only a few hundred more than a Colt. Both are production guns, not custom. For a little more you get a tight fit, front strap checkering, non-cratered lettering, and night sights.

I do have to say I really like the new Colt Mustang .380.
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Old 11-17-2012, 22:37   #30
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You're paying too much, I got mine for $1,350 delivered,
Yep and I paid $50 more for my Les Baer TRS than you paid for your Valor, doesn't mean it's commonplace. The going rate for Valors is exactly what I said. Unless you can provide a link?

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Both are production guns, not custom. For a little more you get a tight fit, front strap checkering, non-cratered lettering, and night sights.
Glad you're up to speed on this. Never said either was custom, however you're not making an apples to apples comparison. Hopefully that's obvious? As far as the particular guns that are involved this thread, let's wait and see how the look when they come out to compare to be fair....
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Old 11-17-2012, 23:06   #31
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I wonder how it is compared to springfields MC operator or double star's 1911. Either way, I'd still go with a Dan Wesson. Whatever happened with the nighthawk GRP? I thought that was built for some special forces guys.

Those pics looks like the casting job on my SR1911
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:02   #32
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I think it's important to remember that, despite the fact Colt's going to be selling these as the "MARSOC gun," they're built differently from the guns that're going to the Marines. Those are specifically not hand-fit in the custom shop.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:25   #33
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I think it's important to remember that, despite the fact Colt's going to be selling these as the "MARSOC gun," they're built differently from the guns that're going to the Marines. Those are specifically not hand-fit in the custom shop.
I don't think you have any clue what are talking about. Hint: YOu REALLY need to watch the video that was posted in the first post.
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Yep and I paid $50 more for my Les Baer TRS than you paid for your Valor, doesn't mean it's commonplace. The going rate for Valors is exactly what I said. Unless you can provide a link?
From today's Gunbroker, here's a LNIB for less than I paid:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=316477894
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I like it. Now would I pay that much for it, I don't know. Wish it did have some form of checkering or stippling on the front strap for the amount of money I'd be paying.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:58   #36
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From today's Gunbroker, here's a LNIB for less than I paid:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=316477894
Posting a link for used gun auction that hasn't sold yet is intellectually disingenuous at best. Want me to go through the trouble to post the majority of NEW Valors on GB and their asking price? Again, provide some links of some retail sites to show they don't go for ~$1500-1700 new.

If you bought yours used then great, you got an OK deal, if you have some site that sells them new and delivered for what you paid then post up.
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Posting a link for used gun auction that hasn't sold yet is intellectually disingenuous at best.
No, that gun will probably go for a few hundred more than a similar condition Colt, and with a lot more features.

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I want you to go to the trouble of shopping around and find a deal like I did, as most people do when buying a gun. Who buys a gun for the first price they see?

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Again, provide some links of some retail sites to show they don't go for ~$1500-1700 new.

If you bought yours used then great, you got an OK deal, if you have some site that sells them new and delivered for what you paid then post up.
Again, mine was new for $1,350 delivered, and a guy on the DW forum said he got one for $1,300 delivered. Mine is SS, which is less than the black DWs, but only a few hundred more than a SS Colt.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:08   #39
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I was actually in the Marines and had buddies who were actually issued 1911's (I was just a Grunt. If we let them get that close we screwed up) But they were just beat to hell old colts for the most part. They all go bang. I'm not a fan of the new pistols. I'd just buy a Springfield railed TRP or a Pro before I'd get the Colt.

I agree tho that lots of people will buy them. I like a great 1911 as much as the next guy but were I to go back in the **** I'd take my Glock.
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Old 11-18-2012, 16:25   #40
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For me it is over priced and not something I would not spend that kind of money.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:03   #42
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I don't think you have any clue what are talking about. Hint: YOu REALLY need to watch the video that was posted in the first post.
I did, which is why I know that, at around 50 seconds into the video, the Colt rep explains the differences between the MARSOC guns and the civilian guns. Hint: one involved hand-fitting, one doesn't.

Would you like to go back and watch it again, maybe?
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:50   #44
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Yep,......
I agree. All this fuss over a painted rail gun from Colt, that happens to be way over priced.
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Not a $2000 pistol IMO.
Well, it does come with a Pelican case AND an Otis cleaning kit.
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Old 11-19-2012, 13:27   #47
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I agree. All this fuss over a painted rail gun from Colt, that happens to be way over priced.
Again, what would you know without even picking one up?
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Well, it does come with a Pelican case AND an Otis cleaning kit.
And the bragging rights of being a USMC selected pistol. And a G10 grip or something like that.
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No, that gun will probably go for a few hundred more than a similar condition Colt, and with a lot more features.
Gun sold for $1300. I've found used Colts for as little as $500.

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I want you to go to the trouble of shopping around and find a deal like I did, as most people do when buying a gun. Who buys a gun for the first price they see?
They are selling at the prices I listed, whether you like it or not. Buying used is a whole different story and to follow that red herring is moot.

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Again, mine was new for $1,350 delivered, and a guy on the DW forum said he got one for $1,300 delivered. Mine is SS, which is less than the black DWs, but only a few hundred more than a SS Colt.
As I figured, you couldn't provide any proof other than "on this other site this guy says." I dunno which exact colt you are trying to compare to, but they go for ~850-900 new around here. Rail guns are just a bit more.
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I did, which is why I know that, at around 50 seconds into the video, the Colt rep explains the differences between the MARSOC guns and the civilian guns. Hint: one involved hand-fitting, one doesn't.
I get that. Please expound on your theory of significance.
Hint: Hand fitting costs money and generally amounts to higher quality. So the consumer models will supposedly have a higher amount of fit and finish.

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