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Old 11-19-2012, 18:35   #1
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Idiot marks

Ok. I have never owned a 1911. Since I have been reading these forums I am seeing the term more and more. I believe I know the meaning, but just want to be sure. So, can you guys/girls fill me in?
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Old 11-19-2012, 18:38   #2
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I gather it's a term for scratches.
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Old 11-19-2012, 18:40   #4
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A scratch from inserting the slide release incorrectly. Not really a big deal, had zero effect for function, but isn't very pretty.

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Old 11-19-2012, 19:21   #5
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Sold this one today because I finally got tired of looking at it. Bought on GB and seller didn't reveal. New buyer didn't care.

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Old 11-19-2012, 19:48   #6
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I have 4 1911s and 2 of them have the scratch. Neither of which were perpetrated by me.

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Old 11-19-2012, 20:02   #7
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
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Old 11-19-2012, 21:33   #8
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
I think it is because it really is not something that can happen when a 1911 is properly put back together regardless of where that might be. The slide stop is inserted in a straight in motion at reassembly, never in upward and then in motion that can cause the mark. Nothing to take offense at, I have idiot marks on my head from smashing it into a shelf at work today, shelf has been there longer than I have and I should have known.

It really has zero effect on the gun as posted.
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Old 11-19-2012, 21:46   #9
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
That's right. I remembered something about how you have to disassemble your pistol in the dark hands full of blood & mud.

Damn, was Fallujah that tough?
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:30   #10
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Glad I asked. Thanks
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:30   #11
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
I agree.
As someone above said:
"The slide stop is inserted in a straight in motion at reassembly" cannot be done in my experience. I have 3 1911's, a Springfield, Colt ANVIII, and a RIA. The Colt and the Springfield cannot be just pushed in, they are too tight, you need to push the pin in with some sort of tool while pushing the slide stop in. And you can't tell me the RIA is made right over the others as the problem.
I came across a website recently covering wartime 1911 roll marks and virtually every one of them had the scratch. Might they have been put there by someone after the Greatest Generation got done with them? Perhaps in a very few cases at best.
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
Sorry you find it offensive,.......do you key your car trying to
unlock the door?
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
Honest wear from use is cool.However, a scratch caused by someone not knowing how to properly install a simple slide stop without gouging the finish...well, that is not cool.

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"The slide stop is inserted in a straight in motion at reassembly" cannot be done in my experience.
Sounds like you need more experience then.
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Actually, no, I am not sorry.

Ignorance on your part gets no pity from me. Earn how to properly
assemble the weapon system.

Someone mentioned about assembling in the dark, in a far away
land. Apples to oranges we are talking bout civvies in the ConUS
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:48   #15
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Actually, no, I am not sorry.

Ignorance on your part gets no pity from me. Earn how to properly
assemble the weapon system.

Someone mentioned about assembling in the dark, in a far away
land. Apples to oranges we are talking bout civvies in the ConUS
Well you learned two things--the other-- that this guy is and always will be the biggest jerk on here. Now maybe he can teach you how to spell.
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Sorry you find it offensive,.......do you key your car trying to
unlock the door?
When he is getting into his car in total darkness when covered in mud & blood perhaps.
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I find it an offensive term. And I am hard to offend.

Sort of like calling me a moron because I got dirt on my jeep.

If someone wants a safe queen, fine. But where do they think that gives them the right to insult me because my gun has a scratch on it. Maybe my gun has seen harder use than theirs has. Maybe mine was not always reassembled on a nice workbench.
DIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON A JEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!UNHEARD OF!!!


I have gouged stuff before but I really can't see how they get a mark like that on them.
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Well you learned two things--the other-- that this guy is and always will be the biggest jerk on here. Now maybe he can teach you how to spell.
Yep,.......that's me! Grade A, #1, first class jerk!


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When he is getting into his car in total darkness when covered in mud & blood perhaps.
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