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Old 11-25-2012, 16:36   #1
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Man dies stealing from Walmart

Man tried to steal 2 DVD players, employees go after him, he fights them, they sit on him. One placed him in a choke hold. Cops arrive, cuff him and realize he's non-responsive.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...ntation/nTFNN/

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5400507&type=1

and according to Facebook comments on the story, it's "discusting"

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...al_comments=62
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Old 11-25-2012, 16:39   #2
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Old 11-25-2012, 16:43   #4
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Alleged Walmart thief dies after confrontation



Did he allegedly die too?
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Old 11-25-2012, 16:47   #5
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Yeah I noticed that too.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:06   #6
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Those employees are going to be in a world of hurt, and Walmart is going to spend at the least, six figures to make what was essentially a $500 problem at best go away.

There are a couple of guys here on GNG who often refer to the math... The numbers don't lie, which is why there is policy to not engage shoplifters in this manner.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:09   #7
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Those employees are going to be in a world of hurt, and Walmart is going to spend at the least, six figures to make what was essentially a $500 problem at best go away.

There are a couple of guys here on GNG who often refer to the math... The numbers don't lie, which is why there is policy to not engage shoplifters in this manner.
Probably not even $500....

The problem (as most LP can tell you) they get performance reviews, etc.. and if they aren't stopping people like this, it reflects negatively on them.

Like many jobs like this... Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
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The fire is no longer my major concern since I am leaving immediately on an unexpected road trip to Indianapolis. Watch the national news over the next couple of days, I'll wave... well, only if I'm cuffed in the front.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:11   #8
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It is WalMart's policy for employees to not confront or chase or initiate any physical confrontation with anyone, including thieves.

I guarantee you that all three employees will soon be terminated, or even charged with a crime. Killing someone for shoplifting is not on the list of legal reasons for the use of deadly force.

WalMart is going to make the family of the thief rich.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:11   #9
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Let them steal the products, we'll just pass the added costs on to our faithful customers, who do pay.
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His family will sue walmart, he was just turning his life around, he was a good boy who was stealing dvd players to feed his family and one was for his 80 year old grandma and he was going to bring it to her right after he sang in his church choir and counseled troubled youth.
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I remember a few years ago Walmart basically said they wouldn't even press charges if the shoplifting wasn't over $50 or $100. Not sure if that policy is still enacted.


ETA: corrected to "shoplifting wasn't over"
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:18   #12
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Ouch...that went bad.

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Old 11-25-2012, 17:21   #13
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So, this bull**** about receipt checkers and such was wrong the whole time? I've been living a lie...
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:26   #14
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I wonder in the long term if Walmart stood behind it's employees in circumstances such as this if it would reduce the liability overall. My inexpert wild guess is that if the employees are fired that might make it more difficult for Walmart to defend itself.

I am sure the policy is designed to reduce the frequency of similar incidents.
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I can see the responding cops get blamed for this.
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His family will sue walmart, he was just turning his life around, he was a good boy who was stealing dvd players to feed his family and one was for his 80 year old grandma and he was going to bring it to her right after he sang in his church choir and counseled troubled youth.
Don't forget he just started a new job to.

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I can see the responding cops get blamed for this.

Was it a Walmart in Germany?
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I wonder in the long term if Walmart stood behind it's employees in circumstances such as this if it would reduce the liability overall. My inexpert wild guess is that if the employees are fired that might make it more difficult for Walmart to defend itself.
Yeah, but Wal Mart will try to distance themselves and say "Look, we aren't responsible, these employees violated the policies we have in place"

It won't work, but that will be their argument.

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I can see the responding cops get blamed for this.

On a serious note, the folks with the deepest pockets and highest visibility will have lawsuits attempted against them 1st.

Walmart
Police
Ambulance (should have gotten their sooner, might be the claim)
Employees

and maybe even the manufacturer of the DVD

Is all of Walmart's LP in-house? If not, the LP firm will be sued too, ESPECIALLY IF they were not involved in the detention of the crook. That's their job, they are trained how to do it properly without killing folks.


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Yeah, but Wal Mart will try to distance themselves and say "Look, we aren't responsible, these employees violated the policies we have in place"

It won't work, but that will be their argument.

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They already said that. In the news report they said they are investigating, as the officials are, to see what policies were violated.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:33   #21
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The first person to file suit needs a twelve gauge shoved up their ass and a slug set off. Same for the attorney.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:36   #22
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Basically, Detectorist and jpa already said what I'd say.
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Old 11-25-2012, 17:42   #23
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With all the chances for stupid to alter my life , I have been extremely lucky .
This whole thing is going to get ugly and I'm not pointing fingers to any one . Prayers to all invloved on all sides .
Even the judge might lose sleep over this one.....!
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Yeah, but Wal Mart will try to distance themselves and say "Look, we aren't responsible, these employees violated the policies we have in place"

It won't work, but that will be their argument.

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yep...my wife works for a large drug store chain..a shift manager went out side the door after a shoplifter..she went out the door into the parking lot..the guy turned around and cut her face open with a box cutter..
she may not have a job. she could be fired!!
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Alleged Walmart thief dies after confrontation



Did he allegedly die too?
I'm eating dinner out with my wife and I laughed uncontrollably when I read this.

Walmart.... Not F-ing around!
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