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Old 11-30-2012, 12:54   #1
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"SC man dies in shooting range accident"

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COLUMBIA A Columbia man died in a what appears to be a tragic shooting range accident.

Jerry Marsh III, 62, was shot in the chest when his 40-caliber Glock semi-automatic handgun accidentally discharged at a West Columbia gun range Thursday evening, Lexington County Coroner Harry Harman said.
Marsh was dismantling the weapon at Shooter’s Choice around 7 p.m. when it fired. He was taken to Palmetto Health Richland but died from the injury.

`The incident remains under investigation by the West Columbia Police Department.
It has been more than a decade since someone died at the range, the police department said. One shooting was an accident similar to Thursday’s. The only other death was a suicide......"
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:56   #2
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I'm curious as to where he was hit and why the muzzle was pointing anywhere near his body, tragic nonetheless.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:59   #3
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I'm curious as to where he was hit and why the muzzle was pointing anywhere near his body, tragic nonetheless.
I have the same questions. I am going to use this as another example when I teach safety classes.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:59   #4
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I'm curious as to where he was hit and why the muzzle was pointing anywhere near his body, tragic nonetheless.
1st post says he was hit in the chest.

Why was he trying to dismantle it?
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:02   #5
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1st post says he was hit in the chest.

Why was he trying to dismantle it?

Yup exactly...interesting...
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:03   #6
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Why was he trying to dismantle it?
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:18   #7
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Couple big things ignored here.

1. He obviously didn't check/clear his weapon properly.

2. Why was the weapon facing him and not down range?!

So many sad incidents like this that could be easily avoided.

First thing I always tell someone that I take shooting is, "ALWAYS TREAT A GUN LIKE ITS LOADED, POINT AT NOBODY".
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:33   #8
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Why was the weapon pointing at his chest? Why didn't he check to make sure his firearm was unloaded? Why wasn't the weapon pointed down range? Why was he taking it apart?

Yes, it is sad that something like this happened, and I won't be surprised if there's uproar from the uneducated masses that will want to close all gun ranges to prevent accidents like this. But I think this one rests squarely on the shoulders of the man who died. This is exactly why we stress using your head and being smart about firearms, because when you do stupid **** and make mistakes, you run the risk of killing people. It just happened that this time it was the man with the gun, instead of someone else.
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:38   #9
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Sounds like a suicide trying to look like a cleaning accident.
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:38   #10
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The real question is not why was he trying to dismantle the gun but why he didn't visually verify the chamber was clear AND keep the muzzle pointed down range?
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Old 11-30-2012, 13:40   #11
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Old 11-30-2012, 14:59   #12
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I can't picture a dismantleing procedure that has the muzzle pointing at your chest at any time.

Either this guy was a total tard who had no business with a loaded gun, or it was intentional.

He could have been trying to clear a jam or something. Kind of like when someone gets a slide jam and they start banging it on the bench to free it? I love that one.
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Old 11-30-2012, 16:54   #13
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Yes, it is sad that something like this happened, and I won't be surprised if there's uproar from the uneducated masses that will want to close all gun ranges to prevent accidents like this.
TK, you're blaming the wrong group. It's not the uneducated masses we have to fear. It's the educated masses who stoop to dishonesty to make slaves of everyone else.
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Old 11-30-2012, 17:13   #14
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I'm curious as to where he was hit and why the muzzle was pointing anywhere near his body, tragic nonetheless.
I believe it said he was 62 years old. It might have been that his upper body strength had diminished, and he brought the weapon closer in for a "push/pull" technique. It is usually a technique taught to some women for the same reason. However, the results can be rather nasty if you have your finger on the trigger, and the barrel gets torqued inward.
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Old 11-30-2012, 18:00   #15
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I have heard the man was attempting to clean his firearm and shot himself in the chest. I was just in there last weekend shooting at the range when I was home visiting family for Thanksgiving.

What is interesting is there is nothing in the local media.

Correction...it did make the local paper.
http://www.thestate.com/2012/11/30/2...-shooting.html

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Old 11-30-2012, 18:02   #16
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Guns always fire when the trigger is pressed. It's one of the good things about guns.
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Old 11-30-2012, 18:08   #17
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Never wear a shirt with an optic retical to the gun range like the guy in the picture, thats just asking for it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 21:48   #18
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Never wear a shirt with an optic retical to the gun range like the guy in the picture, thats just asking for it.
He's got ceramic plates and duct tape, no worries.
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TK, you're blaming the wrong group. It's not the uneducated masses we have to fear. It's the educated masses who stoop to dishonesty to make slaves of everyone else.
And the uneducated masses who allow it to happen.
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We've been reading a lot recently about skyrocketing gun sales, and the demand for firearms has actually been going up for years. This increase in popularity and the response to fear of tougher gun laws also means there are lots of new gun owners who lack experience and knowledge.

This case might have been carelessness or lack of knowledge of the gun handling rules most of us live by. I fear there will be more risk at public ranges as newcomers step to the firing line without knowing much more than what the gun salesman showed them.

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We've been reading a lot recently about skyrocketing gun sales, and the demand for firearms has actually been going up for years. This increase in popularity and the response to fear of tougher gun laws also means there are lots of new gun owners who lack experience and knowledge.

This case might have been carelessness or lack of knowledge of the gun handling rules most of us live by. I fear there will be more risk at public ranges as newcomers step to the firing line without knowing much more than what the gun salesman showed them.
Good post.... This thread will have 5000 posts about why this and why that. Odds are in favor that he was inexperienced and made a fatal mistake...literally. Sad
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Old 11-30-2012, 23:07   #22
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i was in gun store today , rack full of AR'S , the guns are attached by cords so no one can run out with one , this idiot has it and pointing around the room , acting like shooting

now that rifle barrel swooped by our heads twice before i yelled at him . gun shop owner made him leave , we had some words but i was pissed .

the owner apologized to us and other folks there , but damn it made me so mad.
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i was in gun store today , rack full of AR'S , the guns are attached by cords so no one can run out with one , this idiot has it and pointing around the room , acting like shooting

now that rifle barrel swooped by our heads twice before i yelled at him . gun shop owner made him leave , we had some words but i was pissed .

the owner apologized to us and other folks there , but damn it made me so mad.
Most of what these people have 'learned' about gun handling has come from TV and movies.

We have to be more vigilant at our ranges to spot careless shooters. Range officers or gun shop managers will have to decide how to handle each situation we point out to them. We always have the option to leave the scene after expressing our concerns.
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Little something I learned not too long ago.

News papers and other media sources routinely report suicides as accidents, to protect the families.

This is quite possibly a suicide being reported as an accident.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:47   #25
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There are no accidental discharges, only negligent discharges.
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