[bucksnort1959]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

Sorry, the comment should be credited to my lawyer

[bucksnort1959]

Originally Posted by Bruce M

Well I certainly wish the OP would respond to some of the questions. This thread had potential.

just warming up. Kicking back and popped a brew. I have to work during the day to support the rest of you slackers

[Glockdude1]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

just warming up. Kicking back and popped a brew. I have to work during the day to support the rest of you slackers

Is your name Leonard Embody by chance??

[bucksnort1959]

Originally Posted by Wishoot

Go figure. Someone getting upset about being pulled over for a moving violation.

Drinking.
Loaded gun.
Moving violation.

Hope the OP has a ton of money to spend on lawyers. I don't think he's going to see dollar one if this ever goes to trial.

Ok
Let's put a similar scenario out there poster.
This is not anywhere what I experienced.
You had a long night the night before because your kid had an earache and kept you up most of the night.
You dragged you but out of bed and put a long day in.
Your wife calls and says it all right for you and your bud from work to go out for dinner. You have a beer, Jack and Coke or whatever and have dinner. After your bud says "I'll buy one at the bar. You're somewhere around .012 at this point depending on weight and other factors. I see you're from Wisconsin so this is nothing peeps do there on a regular basis on a Friday fish or Saturday prime rib outing.
Have you REALLY been drinking?
You get in your car and a couple of miles away you aren't paying attention you're going over the speed limit and the cherries come on.Say you're in Waukesha and not at 35th and North so being a whitey you're not out of your element.
You do have a loaded pistol with you because most sane peeps know an unloaded gun is useless when micro seconds count and you have a CCW and are pretty proficient with it. You got that right back last year and are exercising it.Not like a FIB that gets out once a year and shoots Bossy.
That last drink is still on your breath when Barney approaches your car. Are you drunk just because you had a drink?
Are you guilty of something because in Socialist Brew City minions have no need to go armed and the cop has some kinda problem that you have a loaded gun and maybe he's envious of your car or the address on your license.
Barney advises you that you were speeding and you think it's over.
Are you a past drinker, alky?
They're the worst next to ex smokers.
Ever go out for dinner, have a beer or 2 and drive home?
Ever been in deer camp and your buds get out of bed and go out in the woods with lingering alcohol in there system?

Should we have check points to catch the fish fry 2 beer drinker?
Do you support 0 tolerance as they do in Socialist countries in Europe?
Have you read the jury instructions for your state in which it spells out at what point you are in violation of your CCW?
Do you understand them?
Do you mind Barney going through your personnel belongings on a "hunch" or fishing expo?
What if they slap the cuffs on you and they search the car and find a roach your kid's friend dropped the night before when your kid had the car.
now you have a problem. but you're only .012, well under .08
I'm not upset about a moving violation.
I'm concerned that besides the ticket for speeding, my stuff was "stolen" from my possession, cuffed and stuffed just because maybe Barney thought he was gonna get an atta boy from his boss.
Talk to some kids in they're 20's and younger and see how Barney likes to hassle them, give out $450 DC tickets like candy because they know hardly anybody is going to hire an attorney at say 1K to fight a $450 ticket

[bucksnort1959]

Originally Posted by Glockdude1

Is your name Leonard Embody by chance??

Don't know the name.
Are you afraid of law abiding people and guns?

[ranger1968]

Epic.....

[bucksnort1959]

Originally Posted by RussP

I'm curious about that previous incident, too.He said it was an internal investigation, not litigation.

This was a long time ago. I think one of the cops wasn't around much longer after that. I at least saw that citizens had a tool that cops had to weed out the bad ones at least in smaller cities.
I wasn't involved directly or was arrested. Just a very good eyewitness to the events as they went down.

[bucksnort1959]

After 1 beer I think I've reached my limit and going to bed so I can do it all over tomorrow

[wprebeck]

And, I'm in for the fun.

[Ohio Copper]

Ooookkkkk.


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[RussP]

Originally Posted by Glockdude1

Is your name Leonard Embody by chance??

Google his name, or kwikrnu, his screen name. Y'all might hit it off.

Is Glockdude1 afraid of law abiding people with guns?

Let me see...which smilie is most appropriate...

... no, not really.

... no, not that either.

... close, but no.

... noooo.

... YEAH, that's it baby!!!

[rockapede]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

Ok
Let's put a similar scenario out there...absolute garbage...hire an attorney at say 1K to fight a $450 ticket

I considered, briefly, responding seriously to your ridiculous assertions and scenarios. I think I'll just laugh, though, because it's not possible to have a rational conversation with an irrational person.

(queue "I know you are but what am I" response)

[Wishoot]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

Ok
Let's put a similar scenario out there poster.
This is not anywhere what I experienced.
You had a long night the night before because your kid had an earache and kept you up most of the night.
You dragged you but out of bed and put a long day in.
Your wife calls and says it all right for you and your bud from work to go out for dinner. You have a beer, Jack and Coke or whatever and have dinner. After your bud says "I'll buy one at the bar. You're somewhere around .012 at this point depending on weight and other factors. I see you're from Wisconsin so this is nothing peeps do there on a regular basis on a Friday fish or Saturday prime rib outing.
Have you REALLY been drinking?
You get in your car and a couple of miles away you aren't paying attention you're going over the speed limit and the cherries come on.Say you're in Waukesha and not at 35th and North so being a whitey you're not out of your element.
You do have a loaded pistol with you because most sane peeps know an unloaded gun is useless when micro seconds count and you have a CCW and are pretty proficient with it. You got that right back last year and are exercising it.Not like a FIB that gets out once a year and shoots Bossy.
That last drink is still on your breath when Barney approaches your car. Are you drunk just because you had a drink?
Are you guilty of something because in Socialist Brew City minions have no need to go armed and the cop has some kinda problem that you have a loaded gun and maybe he's envious of your car or the address on your license.
Barney advises you that you were speeding and you think it's over.
Are you a past drinker, alky?
They're the worst next to ex smokers.
Ever go out for dinner, have a beer or 2 and drive home?
Ever been in deer camp and your buds get out of bed and go out in the woods with lingering alcohol in there system?

Should we have check points to catch the fish fry 2 beer drinker?
Do you support 0 tolerance as they do in Socialist countries in Europe?
Have you read the jury instructions for your state in which it spells out at what point you are in violation of your CCW?
Do you understand them?
Do you mind Barney going through your personnel belongings on a "hunch" or fishing expo?
What if they slap the cuffs on you and they search the car and find a roach your kid's friend dropped the night before when your kid had the car.
now you have a problem. but you're only .012, well under .08
I'm not upset about a moving violation.
I'm concerned that besides the ticket for speeding, my stuff was "stolen" from my possession, cuffed and stuffed just because maybe Barney thought he was gonna get an atta boy from his boss.
Talk to some kids in they're 20's and younger and see how Barney likes to hassle them, give out $450 DC tickets like candy because they know hardly anybody is going to hire an attorney at say 1K to fight a $450 ticket

I understand where you're coming from, and I understand why you're angry. But the cards really aren't stacked in your favor.

As for drinking and driving myself. No. Never. Even if it's the good fish fry place down the street. Having been a volunteer firefighter in the past, I've seen enough broken bodies and tragedies caused by drinking and driving to last me a lifetime.

[RussP]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

Ok
Let's put a similar scenario out there poster.
This is not anywhere what I experienced.
You had a long night the night before because your kid had an earache and kept you up most of the night.
You dragged you but out of bed and put a long day in.
Your wife calls and says it all right for you and your bud from work to go out for dinner. You have a beer, Jack and Coke or whatever and have dinner. After your bud says "I'll buy one at the bar. You're somewhere around .012 at this point depending on weight and other factors. I see you're from Wisconsin so this is nothing peeps do there on a regular basis on a Friday fish or Saturday prime rib outing.
Have you REALLY been drinking?
You get in your car and a couple of miles away you aren't paying attention you're going over the speed limit and the cherries come on.Say you're in Waukesha and not at 35th and North so being a whitey you're not out of your element.
You do have a loaded pistol with you because most sane peeps know an unloaded gun is useless when micro seconds count and you have a CCW and are pretty proficient with it. You got that right back last year and are exercising it.Not like a FIB that gets out once a year and shoots Bossy.
That last drink is still on your breath when Barney approaches your car. Are you drunk just because you had a drink?
Are you guilty of something because in Socialist Brew City minions have no need to go armed and the cop has some kinda problem that you have a loaded gun and maybe he's envious of your car or the address on your license.
Barney advises you that you were speeding and you think it's over.
Are you a past drinker, alky?
They're the worst next to ex smokers.
Ever go out for dinner, have a beer or 2 and drive home?
Ever been in deer camp and your buds get out of bed and go out in the woods with lingering alcohol in there system?

Should we have check points to catch the fish fry 2 beer drinker?
Do you support 0 tolerance as they do in Socialist countries in Europe?
Have you read the jury instructions for your state in which it spells out at what point you are in violation of your CCW?
Do you understand them?
Do you mind Barney going through your personnel belongings on a "hunch" or fishing expo?
What if they slap the cuffs on you and they search the car and find a roach your kid's friend dropped the night before when your kid had the car.
now you have a problem. but you're only .012, well under .08
I'm not upset about a moving violation.
I'm concerned that besides the ticket for speeding, my stuff was "stolen" from my possession, cuffed and stuffed just because maybe Barney thought he was gonna get an atta boy from his boss.
Talk to some kids in they're 20's and younger and see how Barney likes to hassle them, give out $450 DC tickets like candy because they know hardly anybody is going to hire an attorney at say 1K to fight a $450 ticket

After a sleepless night tending to your child, you worked a long day. You and a buddy go out to get something to eat and a couple of drinks, on with your meal, one just before leaving. You are tired and relaxed after the meal and drinks.

A couple miles from the restaurant, not paying attention to your speed, you are stopped for speeding. The Milwaukee PD officer notices alcohol on your breath. He asks if you have any firearms. You say yes. He asks if it is loaded. You respond in some manner that it is.

The officer now has someone he believes is impaired by alcohol in possession of a firearm.

He, and perhaps a second officer by now, remove you from the car, handcuff you, remove your firearm and place you in the backseat of a police car.

They then commence a search incident to your arrest.

After some period of time they take you in and blood is drawn. That reveals you have a BAC of .012. How long after being stop did they draw blood?

Is that pretty close to what happened so far?

You say, "...only .012, well under .08." A couple of drinks may not affect you under normal circumstances. However, you had little sleep the night before and had a long workday. Your body's alcohol tolerance was probably lower than it would be were you rested.

Did the arresting officer describe your appearance when he stopped you in his report? Your face may have reflected that lack of sleep/couple of drinks combination. Did they process you, take your picture? That would be interesting to see.

Now, it is also interesting that you threw in the, "...find a roach your kid's friend dropped the night before when your kid had the car." Is that a fact in your story, or did you just throw that in to spice things up?

You said, "...my stuff was "stolen" from my possession..." Was it returned to you when you were released?

Were you even charged with anything other than speeding?

There are other conclusions that may be drawn from your posts, but that can wait.

Looking forward to your response.

[Bruce M]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

just warming up. Kicking back and popped a brew. I have to work during the day to support the rest of you slackers

Umm thanks but I have been working at my current job for my current employer since 1982 and I paid into social security pretty much full time for a few years before that and part time before that. But will admit to being a slacker the one time in thirty years that I actually did call in sick when my appendix ruptured.

[dpadams6]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

I was also brought to the stand in a murder trial about 18 or so years ago and my testimony helped the prosecution .
So what does it make me?

Either you have the worst luck in the world (unlikely) or there just might be a little more to how you conduct yourself (likely).

[RussP]

Originally Posted by Bruce M

Umm thanks but I have been working at my current job for my current employer since 1982 and I paid into social security pretty much full time for a few years before that and part time before that. But will admit to being a slacker the one time in thirty years that I actually did call in sick when my appendix ruptured.

Bruce, that was an, "I pay youse coppers' salaries," comment...only said with a Wisconsin accent.

[LawScholar]

Originally Posted by dpadams6

Either you have the worst luck in the world (unlikely) or there just might be a little more to how you conduct yourself (likely).

ding ding ding

[RussP]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

This was a long time ago. I think one of the cops wasn't around much longer after that. I at least saw that citizens had a tool that cops had to weed out the bad ones at least in smaller cities.
I wasn't involved directly or was arrested. Just a very good eyewitness to the events as they went down.

Originally Posted by dpadams6

Either you have the worst luck in the world (unlikely) or there just might be a little more to how you conduct yourself (likely).

He was a witness, not an actor.

Is that correct, bucksnort?

[John Rambo]

Someone link this guy to Cop Talk. I want to watch the fireworks. Please?

[NC Bullseye]

This reminds me of when quality entertainment was available for free on broadcast TV and there were only three networks available.


I miss that Indian test pattern.

[SFla27]

Not to add anything inflammatory to the thread (), it may be a good idea not to have alcoholic beverages when carrying. Alcohol and carrying a firearm don't mix too well, irrespective of whether one has one or a few drinks and the resulting under-the-legal-limit BAL.

[RussP]

Originally Posted by NC Bullseye

This reminds me of when quality entertainment was available for free on broadcast TV and there were only three networks available.


I miss that Indian test pattern.

[SpringerTGO]

Originally Posted by bucksnort1959

Ok
Let's put a similar scenario out there poster.
This is not anywhere what I experienced.
You had a long night the night before because your kid had an earache and kept you up most of the night.
You dragged you but out of bed and put a long day in.
Your wife calls and says it all right for you and your bud from work to go out for dinner. You have a beer, Jack and Coke or whatever and have dinner. After your bud says "I'll buy one at the bar. You're somewhere around .012 at this point depending on weight and other factors. I see you're from Wisconsin so this is nothing peeps do there on a regular basis on a Friday fish or Saturday prime rib outing.
Have you REALLY been drinking?
You get in your car and a couple of miles away you aren't paying attention you're going over the speed limit and the cherries come on.Say you're in Waukesha and not at 35th and North so being a whitey you're not out of your element.
You do have a loaded pistol with you because most sane peeps know an unloaded gun is useless when micro seconds count and you have a CCW and are pretty proficient with it. You got that right back last year and are exercising it.Not like a FIB that gets out once a year and shoots Bossy.
That last drink is still on your breath when Barney approaches your car. Are you drunk just because you had a drink?
Are you guilty of something because in Socialist Brew City minions have no need to go armed and the cop has some kinda problem that you have a loaded gun and maybe he's envious of your car or the address on your license.
Barney advises you that you were speeding and you think it's over.
Are you a past drinker, alky?
They're the worst next to ex smokers.
Ever go out for dinner, have a beer or 2 and drive home?
Ever been in deer camp and your buds get out of bed and go out in the woods with lingering alcohol in there system?

Should we have check points to catch the fish fry 2 beer drinker?
Do you support 0 tolerance as they do in Socialist countries in Europe?
Have you read the jury instructions for your state in which it spells out at what point you are in violation of your CCW?
Do you understand them?
Do you mind Barney going through your personnel belongings on a "hunch" or fishing expo?
What if they slap the cuffs on you and they search the car and find a roach your kid's friend dropped the night before when your kid had the car.
now you have a problem. but you're only .012, well under .08
I'm not upset about a moving violation.
I'm concerned that besides the ticket for speeding, my stuff was "stolen" from my possession, cuffed and stuffed just because maybe Barney thought he was gonna get an atta boy from his boss.
Talk to some kids in they're 20's and younger and see how Barney likes to hassle them, give out $450 DC tickets like candy because they know hardly anybody is going to hire an attorney at say 1K to fight a $450 ticket

Let's see if I can cut through the b.s.

The officer pulled the guy over for a reason.
He had alcohol on his breath so the officer gave him a sobriety test.
He failed.

The rest is garbage. Kind of like say "my friend couldn't support his family even while working 2 jobs. So he sawed off is family heirloom shotgun and robbed a bank. And was speeding away at 100MPH in a school zone when the mean police officer pulled him over........"

[RussP]

Originally Posted by John Rambo

Someone link this guy to Cop Talk. I want to watch the fireworks. Please?

They are here, some just lurking... They'll chime in when it is time.