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Old 12-03-2012, 21:02   #21
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It's not the "old times" of your youth. I swear, I think some of youse guys walk around with rose-colored glasses on. Come on out here in the real world and you'll se what I'm sayin'.
I was repossessing cars before you were in diapers (I am willing to bet). I know what the ugly side of the real world is. Care to share stories? That was how I paid my way through college.

The situations my job put me in were a lot worse than "Community Watch". Had guns pulled on me, had guys take swings at me, even had a guy try to run over me, but never felt the need to shoot him.
(and for the record all the reality shows about repossessing cars are staged and not real)

I knew when to back out of a situation I shouldn't be in.

This whole case is about idiocy meeting stupidity.

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Old 12-03-2012, 21:07   #22
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What's scary are the comments under zimmermans photo in the link
These morons believe zimmerman was the bad guy
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:25   #23
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.... This whole case is about idiocy meeting stupidity.
You said............... "To me, getting an old time butt wippin is not reason enough to shoot someone......"

You play it your way, I'll play it my way. The thug culture of today don't apply no "old time butt wippins". Any one of those blows could have easily ended his life. Once "I fear for my life", that is the only criteria I have to meet.

ETA: Oh, I'm 57. You may have a few years on me, but I won't sweat it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:26   #24
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What's scary are the comments under zimmermans photo in the link
These morons believe zimmerman was the bad guy
yep, he didnt get beat so bad that he feared for his life after he shot his attacker, it was before.

he got attacked, feared for his life, then fired one round after taking how many punches to the face, and having his head slammed on to the street how many times with his attacker on top of him...?
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:33   #25
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You said............... "To me, getting an old time butt wippin is not reason enough to shoot someone......"

You play it your way, I'll play it my way. The thug culture of today don't apply no "old time butt wippins". Any one of those blows could have easily ended his life. Once "I fear for my life", that is the only criteria I have to meet.
I understand you are the sensitive type. It's OK.

I lived in Oklahoma and my parents still own a farm there. I know for a fact there are bars there today that the highlight of the evening may be a good fight. And I've yet to see anyone shot.

Like I said. It was the perfect match: Idiocy met Stupidity that night.

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Old 12-03-2012, 21:34   #26
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My other comment about this situation is:

Cases like Zimmerman's and others will spell the end of the Castle Doctrine in Florida as we know it. If not thrown out, it will end up neutered substantially.
Gee, I kinda thought it had more to do with "Stand your Ground" laws than "Castle Doctrine" . Of course I am not an expert on Floridas laws and their particulars
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:37   #27
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My other comment about this situation is:

Cases like Zimmerman's and others will spell the end of the Castle Doctrine in Florida as we know it. If not thrown out, it will end up neutered substantially.
Perhaps you really don't understand the differences between Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws?
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:47   #28
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You said............... "To me, getting an old time butt wippin is not reason enough to shoot someone......"

You play it your way, I'll play it my way. The thug culture of today don't apply no "old time butt wippins". Any one of those blows could have easily ended his life. Once "I fear for my life", that is the only criteria I have to meet.

ETA: Oh, I'm 57. You may have a few years on me, but I won't sweat it.
I couldn't agree more. Zimmerman feared for his life.Period!
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Old 12-03-2012, 21:58   #29
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Perhaps you really don't understand the differences between Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws?
I admit I lump them together. But so will the legislature. This is already scheduled for the next session.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:01   #30
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If you feel froggy and jump on someone, you have to expect him to jump back on you.....................................
You do realize that we do not know of any evidence that Zimmerman jumped on anyone right? All we have (so far) is someone who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman right before the shot.

Seems like Martin was the one who got froggy and jumped and then suffered the results of his actions.

Just my observations.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:13   #31
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You do realize that we do not know of any evidence that Zimmerman jumped on anyone right? All we have (so far) is someone who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman right before the shot.

Seems like Martin was the one who got froggy and jumped and then suffered the results of his actions.

Just my observations.
You are reading too much into what I said. The froggy comment is just a figure of speech where I came from and I wasn't giving any thought to who jumped on who.

I'm not taking sides. My only point is this whole thing was avoidable. I really believe that. It took 2 and a sad comedy of errors to end up like this.

Let's see there are only 4 potential outcomes and only one truth.
1) The right man is dead and the right man will walk free.
2) The right man is dead and the wrong man will go to prison.
3) The wrong man is dead and the right man will go to prison.
4) The wrong man is dead and the wrong will walk free.

It has to be one of the four.

And there is only one truth that we may or may not ever know.

The best we can hope for is a wise impartial jury.

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Old 12-03-2012, 22:15   #32
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Jonesee, at what point of you getting your ass kicked do you feel like you might lose your life?
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:17   #33
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Jonesee, at what point of you getting your ass kicked do you feel like you might lose your life?
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:19   #34
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Jonesee, at what point of you getting your ass kicked do you feel like you might lose your life?
Hell, it's just a good 'ole ass whippin! Just boys being boys. You know. Nothing but good, clean fun!
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:21   #35
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Jonesee, at what point of you getting your ass kicked do you feel like you might lose your life?
I never really had that thought. Too busy trying to find a way to get back on my feet. The last time was in Detroit. I had to go to the hospital the next morning.

And I looked a lot worse than the picture of Zimmerman (but I'm not really a pretty guy to start with)

Seriously, I'm not the only product of a misspent youth on here. I have to believe there are others that grew up a little rough. You can take a beating and survive just fine although the next morning it hurts like hell. On the other end of the spectrum, the son of a man I know hit a kid once outside a bar. Kid #2 fell down hit his head on a curb and lights out . Kid #1 went to jail for manslaughter for what should have been something minor. You can never tell.

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Old 12-03-2012, 22:27   #36
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It's weird that we are just now getting to see the picture.
Not really. The election is over. When you need latino votes, you don't want to appear like you're screwing one of them.

At the same time, you need to please your own people to keep them voting.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:37   #37
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Not really. The election is over. When you need latino votes, you don't want to appear like you're screwing one of them.

At the same time, you need to please your own people to keep them voting.
you kidding me? obama gets the jew and hispanic vote by over 70% each time that crusifying a hispanic jew wouldnt matter to either of those groups.
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Old 12-03-2012, 23:24   #38
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It's weird that a fact that has been universally accepted for almost a year still gets trotted out as "news"
Does the photo bother you in some way?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:19   #39
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I predict the riots will last longer than the trial.
That sorta depends on the verdict. If he's found guilty, there won't be any. But at least in what has been released, it appears there is reasonable doubt that he committed murder.

What makes this photo news, is that there are things yet unknown that will be learned by the public.

We'll have to wait and see how it ends.
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