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Old 12-04-2012, 08:05   #41
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I admit I lump them together. But so will the legislature. This is already scheduled for the next session.
You do know that the special task force the governor of FL appointed to study the SYG law recommended no changes needed to be made? This was just in the past couple of weeks.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:07   #42
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The reason for the photo was laid out by the lawyer as they are in needs of funds and donations have slowed to a trickle.

For you that equate this to a bar fight, you are wrong it has no similarity to one.
I've been in my share of them, won and lost but never had I had a guy sit on me pounding my head into the ground and telling me he is going to kill me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:22   #43
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Does the photo bother you in some way?
Not at all, although the term "GRAPHIC PHOTO" in the title of the original article bothers me a bit. I've seen more blood after a pillow fight.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:39   #44
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Once "I fear for my life", that is the only criteria I have to meet.
I know people who fear for their life upon hearing loud words spoken in their general vicinity. Wouldn't justify them opening fire.

Fearing for your life, in itself, is not enough. There are a lot of chicken**** people out there. The fear needs to be reasonable. When you are the instigator, it's harder to get somebody to believe the fear was reasonable. It doesn't mean it can't be that way, just that you'll most likely be required to prove it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:54   #45
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Charged with murder? Good grief.

Let's get this trial going already so Zimmerman can be freed and the riots can start.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:19   #46
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I know people who fear for their life upon hearing loud words spoken in their general vicinity. Wouldn't justify them opening fire.

Fearing for your life, in itself, is not enough. There are a lot of chicken**** people out there. The fear needs to be reasonable. When you are the instigator, it's harder to get somebody to believe the fear was reasonable. It doesn't mean it can't be that way, just that you'll most likely be required to prove it.
The missing part is who actually instigated the physical contact. Zimmerman's story is that trayvon started the fight, and was pounding his head on the concrete verbally threatening to kill him. Now to be honest, neither of us knows if that's the way it went down or if there are significant missing details missing in that account, but if that is the way it went down, I think shooting the guy was a very reasonable thing to do. The burden of proof lays with the prosecution, not the accused.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Just relax, it'll all come out in the trial and a jury will decide what needs to happen next.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:16   #47
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The missing part is who actually instigated the physical contact. Zimmerman's story is that trayvon started the fight, and was pounding his head on the concrete verbally threatening to kill him..
True. It is also true that those who intend to initiate violence rarely call the police first and even arrange where to meet them in a few minutes. GZ did. It is all on the 911 recording.

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Old 12-04-2012, 12:19   #48
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Oh, so the news is that the media is biased.

I apologize for accusing you of presenting old information as fresh.
The media pumped this case up and was very anti-Zimmerman.

The pic is new. What part of "new" don't you grasp?
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:21   #49
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The missing part is who actually instigated the physical contact. Zimmerman's story is that trayvon started the fight, and was pounding his head on the concrete verbally threatening to kill him.
IMHO- you don't put someone on trial for their life unless you know that he started it. This case should not go past a preliminary exam. It is being allowed to last for months to calm the mob down.

Dershowitz blasts the prosecution and NYT:

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IMHO- you don't put someone on trial for their life unless you know that he started it. This case should not go past a preliminary exam. It is being allowed to last for months to calm the mob down.

Dershowitz blasts the prosecution and NYT:

GOLDBERG-DERSHOWITZ ON MARTIN-ZIMMERMAN 120518 - YouTube
I highly suspect that a lot of what has happened in this case is politically motivated. Time will tell.

I do like the fact that he's suing NBC. Their altering of the 911 tape was maliciously motivated.
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Old 12-04-2012, 13:11   #51
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I can't tell whether you are serious or not.

To me, getting an old time butt wippin is not reason enough to shoot someone. I will admit I've been on the receiving end of said butt wippins , and I have administered a couple when I was younger.

If you feel froggy and jump on someone, you have to expect him to jump back on you. If you aren't ready for that, you shouldn't put yourself in that position.

And that doesn't matter whether you are black, white, brown or purple. Whether you are in a bar or on the street.

Maybe the world has changed that much though.
So some 20 year old comes up behind you and starts punching the hell out of you , your suspose to take it like a man.
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Old 12-04-2012, 13:35   #52
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you kidding me? obama gets the jew and hispanic vote by over 70% each time that crusifying a hispanic jew wouldnt matter to either of those groups.
I get what you're saying but the press was playing it like a "cause" for a revolution. Remember?

In that sense, it was bigger than a Zimmerman or a Trayvon.

Perhaps with this background, they threw in free-handouts to win them over. Brilliant play, I'd say.
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Old 12-04-2012, 21:41   #53
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Political Issues


Lawyer for George Zimmerman 'frustrated' at prosecutors' withholding of graphic photo

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/03...#ixzz2E8ra2tTJ

The prosecution withheld the color pic for months.
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Old 12-04-2012, 21:43   #54
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I highly suspect that a lot of what has happened in this case is politically motivated. Time will tell.

I do like the fact that he's suing NBC. Their altering of the 911 tape was maliciously motivated.
Very much so:

"Sanford cops a problem for prosecutors in Zimmerman case, experts say"

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1456144

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I never really had that thought. Too busy trying to find a way to get back on my feet. The last time was in Detroit. I had to go to the hospital the next morning.

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Were you mounted and being pummeled MMA style?
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Were you mounted and being pummeled MMA style?
One clarification. MMA doesn't have concrete floors.
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One clarification. MMA doesn't have concrete floors.
Noted.

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:34   #58
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yep, he didnt get beat so bad that he feared for his life after he shot his attacker, it was before.

he got attacked, feared for his life, then fired one round after taking how many punches to the face, and having his head slammed on to the street how many times with his attacker on top of him...?
Thats right plus the low life beating the life out of him was trying to take his gun & Zimmerman said he feared he was going to pass out. What should he have done? Let T/M Kill him??
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Hell, it's just a good 'ole ass whippin! Just boys being boys. You know. Nothing but good, clean fun!
That is a joke Right??
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:13   #60
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I understand you are the sensitive type. It's OK.

I lived in Oklahoma and my parents still own a farm there. I know for a fact there are bars there today that the highlight of the evening may be a good fight. And I've yet to see anyone shot.

Like I said. It was the perfect match: Idiocy met Stupidity that night.
Your posts show that you are quite fond of that match-up.

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