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Old 12-07-2012, 06:54   #76
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"minorities have a right to kill whitey"

True but they have to use BLACK TALON BULLETS.
On trains anyway.


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Colin Ferguson (mass murderer)

Six passengers died from their injuries:

Amy Federici, a 27-year-old Corporate Interior Designer from Mineola, New York[9]
James Gorycki, a 51-year-old Account Executive also from Mineola[12]
Mi Kyung Kim, a 27-year-old from New Hyde Park, New York[17]
Maria Theresa Tumangan Magtoto, a 30-year-old Lawyer from Westbury, New York[17]
Dennis McCarthy, a 52-year-old Office Manager from Mineola. His son Kevin was severely injured; and his wife Carolyn McCarthy[17] was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1996.
Richard Nettleton, a 24-year-old college student from Roslyn Heights, New York[17]

None of Ferguson's victims were black

Police found pieces of notebook paper in Ferguson's pockets with scribbled notes with the heading "reasons for this".[11] One of the notes referred to "racism by Caucasians and Uncle Tom Negroes".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_F...(mass_murderer)

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:11   #77
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Have you read what has been posted in the thread?

Some are taking the position that it was just a beat down, no reason to use deadly force. From what has been reported, I disagree. Posts 44 & 51.

Don't worry, it'll work itself out in the end.
Others (like myself) are taking the position that receiving a beat down doesn't undisputedly justify the use of deadly force. The distinction appears to be lost on a lot of people (not you in particular).

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:26   #78
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Others (like myself) are taking the position that receiving a beat down doesn't undisputedly justify the use of deadly force. The distinction appears to be lost on a lot of people (not you in particular).
You are correct - it would have to put him in reasonable fear that he was about to suffer death or a serious injury, or you have to believe a "forcible felony" is taking place, under Florida law (could be either the assault itself or the belief that he was about to be robbed) to allow deadly force. However, if your head is being beaten against a sidewalk - and especially if you have a gun that can be taken when you are unconscious - that's not hard burden to meet.

If the evidence we have is true, it looks like a virtual certainty that he was legally justified.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:34   #79
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I knew when to back out of a situation I shouldn't be in.
And if you couldn't back out? Maybe that was what Zim found himself in.
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Old 12-07-2012, 19:23   #80
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Others (like myself) are taking the position that receiving a beat down doesn't undisputedly justify the use of deadly force. The distinction appears to be lost on a lot of people (not you in particular).

Well, there is case law on disparity of force. Fear of death is not necessary in many states, fear of great bodily injury is all that is needed. In that kind of a fight, I'm bringing a gun. I'd use it only if I had to. I may have an underlying condition involving my neck (that is well documented) that would make it reasonable to not want to get punched in the head for fear of great bodily injury.

In this story, if it proves to be true, the introduction of the concrete sidewalk as a lethal weapon......

If the story happened the way that Zimmerman says it did, I think he should have shot him, I would have.


Now we can all wait and see what comes out in the trial, and see how it goes. I still think NBC owes him multiple million dollars for irrevocably damaging his reputation.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:25   #81
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Based on the pictures, if it weren't for that little Kel-tec, Zimmerman could have been one of the many unsolved murders that we would never have heard about.


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