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Old 01-01-2013, 15:29   #1
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Why are atheist so intolerant of other beliefs?

I'm not trying to get into the whole debate over whether atheism is a religion or not, it is, but that's a different topic.


Why do so many atheists react with anger, bad manners, and emotional distress when someone simply has a different opinion than they do?

It's an interesting subject that I think needs to be explored.

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The same reason conservatives react with anger, bad manners and emotional distress when a liberal expresses a different opinion than they do.
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Old 01-01-2013, 15:54   #3
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I'm not trying to get into the whole debate over whether atheism is a religion or not, it is, but that's a different topic.


Why do so many atheists react with anger, bad manners, and emotional distress when someone simply has a different opinion than they do?

It's an interesting subject that I think needs to be explored.

Probably same reason people of other religions get upset by other people not believing in what they believe.

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Because no one taught them any better when they were children. They never learned how to disagree with people just to yell and scream because "you believe in something"
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I believe that Atheism is more about contempt for other people than it is about not believing in God.

Religious believers place God at the pinnacle of creation, with man subservient to God.

Atheists demand to be at the pinnacle of creation, with other men subservient to them.

That means God must go!

Notice how quick atheists resort to attacking a person's intelligence level and demeaning them personally.

When atheists deny the exist of God, in reality they're telling their fellow man that, "you're stupid for believing in God and I'm smarter than you are because don't believe such nonsense".

The typical atheist personality considers other people as inferior, not only in religion but other areas of life too.

They can't stand God getting all the attention that they feel they deserve.

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Why do so many atheists react with anger, bad manners, and emotional distress when someone simply has a different opinion than they do?
Now, thatís funny. I donít care who yaí are.

Vic:
ď[Atheists] lead such a miserable existence that you hang out on a religious forum to harass believers. I guess misery likes company and you are hoping to destroy the faith of as many as you can.

The carnal mind hates the law of God which is righteousness or right doing. Therefore, the carnally minded have no ability to rise above sin or wrongdoing because they love to wallow in it.


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This is for the atheists that infest this forum.
I'm being as nice as I can to atheists.
If you only knew the effort I expend in restraining myself.
I just love dragging you Godless heathens out into the light for all to see.
I don't have any liberal friends.
I don't have any atheist friends either.


And so on. Iím not going to bother digging out all the anger, insults and bad manners displayed by believers on this forum.

In my opinion, the worst rudeness is exhibited by believers who start a thread, get challenged, canít come up with an answer that would convince a 2nd grader and then just quit posting rather than admit they were wrong.

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When atheists deny the exist of God, in reality they're telling their fellow man that, "you're stupid for believing in God and I'm smarter than you are because don't believe such nonsense".
Personally, I don't feel that way. To me, believers simply lack critical thinking skills or they're so emotionally invested in their beliefs that they can't allow themselves to abandon obvious mythology.

I donít have to tell my fellow man that, ďYouíre deluded for believing in an imaginary god and Iím much more in touch with reality for rejecting nonsenseĒ.

That goes without saying.

No offense.
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I believe that Atheism is more about contempt for other people than it is about not believing in God.

Religious believers place God at the pinnacle of creation, with man subservient to God.

Atheists demand to be at the pinnacle of creation, with other men subservient to them.

That means God must go!

Notice how quick atheists resort to attacking a person's intelligence level and demeaning them personally.

When atheists deny the exist of God, in reality they're telling their fellow man that, "you're stupid for believing in God and I'm smarter than you are because don't believe such nonsense".

The typical atheist personality considers other people as inferior, not only in religion but other areas of life too.

They can't stand God getting all the attention that they feel they deserve.

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I do see a component of narcissism and hubris in many, but not all. But I do have to disagree with your assertion that they think another is stupid for believing in God. I've been called plenty of names, and only because I refused to commit to the absence of a god. Even admitting you don't know isn't good enough. If you point out that having faith that no deity has existed, that is met with hostility too.
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Now, thatís funny. I donít care who yaí are.

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ď[Atheists] lead such a miserable existence that you hang out on a religious forum to harass believers. I guess misery likes company and you are hoping to destroy the faith of as many as you can.

The carnal mind hates the law of God which is righteousness or right doing. Therefore, the carnally minded have no ability to rise above sin or wrongdoing because they love to wallow in it.


JNnTX:
This is for the atheists that infest this forum.
I'm being as nice as I can to atheists.
If you only knew the effort I expend in restraining myself.
I just love dragging you Godless heathens out into the light for all to see.
I don't have any liberal friends.
I don't have any atheist friends either.


And so on. Iím not going to bother digging out all the anger, insults and bad manners displayed by believers on this forum.

In my opinion, the worst rudeness is exhibited by believers who start a thread, get challenged, canít come up with an answer that would convince a 2nd grader and then just quit posting rather than admit they were wrong.


Personally, I don't feel that way. To me, believers simply lack critical thinking skills or they're so emotionally invested in their beliefs that they can't allow themselves to abandon obvious mythology.

I donít have to tell my fellow man that, ďYouíre deluded for believing in an imaginary god and Iím much more in touch with reality for rejecting nonsenseĒ.

That goes without saying.

No offense.
Meh, no offense from me either. But I have to point out that I have been attacked repeatedly by atheists, and I'm an agnostic. Just for pointing out that a strong belief in something that cannot be proven, requires faith. Even if it is the absence of a deity.
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People get upset and aggressive when they feel threatened. People like to feel secure so when other views are expressed that they are unsure about they feel threatened.
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I do see a component of narcissism and hubris in many, but not all. But I do have to disagree with your assertion that they think another is stupid for believing in God. I've been called plenty of names, and only because I refused to commit to the absence of a god. Even admitting you don't know isn't good enough. If you point out that having faith that no deity has existed, that is met with hostility too.
That's funny, given that virtually every atheist here has clearly explained their beliefs or lack thereof, and specifically stated they don't know whether any deities exist. Maybe the cause of atheists' bad manners is constantly having their position lied about and mischaracterised, among other things.

No, that couldn't possibly be it.
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Now, thatís funny. I donít care who yaí are.

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ď[Atheists] lead such a miserable existence that you hang out on a religious forum to harass believers. I guess misery likes company and you are hoping to destroy the faith of as many as you can.

The carnal mind hates the law of God which is righteousness or right doing. Therefore, the carnally minded have no ability to rise above sin or wrongdoing because they love to wallow in it.

Not hatred just fact. Why else would an atheist hang out on a religious forum and attack believers?

This is just human nature. I have experienced it myself in the past. It goes along with holding grudges and bitter and resentful feelings.
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That's funny, given that virtually every atheist here has clearly explained their beliefs or lack thereof, and specifically stated they don't know whether any deities exist. Maybe the cause of atheists' bad manners is constantly having their position lied about and mischaracterised, among other things.

No, that couldn't possibly be it.
Not virtually every. Only the most devout and pious among that faith have done that.

They profess a passive belief, and yet are amazingly active in their proselytizing for the faith, with a surety and pureness of purpose that defies a passive belief.
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I think atheists (like all groups of people) have a fairly even mix of personalities in them. The ones that stick out to you, unfortunately, are the ones that rub you the wrong way. I think this goes for all groups with which you have limited contact. I know many atheists who are decent people. They don't attack my beliefs, and I don't attack theirs. If we have a conversation about it, it is just the two of us conversing about what we believe and why we believe it. We don't attack each other's character or intelligence over a difference in opinion. Rational people just don't do that.
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Read the Joy of hate by "Greg Gudfeld." An interesting and humorous look at the subject. Still finishing it myself.
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Why do so many atheists react with anger, bad manners, and emotional distress when someone simply has a different opinion than they do?
I believe that the anonymity granted by the Internet empowers people to say things and treat others in ways which they wouldn't if they were having a face-to-face conversation with another person.

I am friends with plenty of Atheists as well as with plenty of devout Christians and I would say that, for the most part, my Christian friends tend to be a bit more "emotional" when their beliefs are questioned.
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I think atheists (like all groups of people) have a fairly even mix of personalities in them. The ones that stick out to you, unfortunately, are the ones that rub you the wrong way. I think this goes for all groups with which you have limited contact. I know many atheists who are decent people. They don't attack my beliefs, and I don't attack theirs. If we have a conversation about it, it is just the two of us conversing about what we believe and why we believe it. We don't attack each other's character or intelligence over a difference in opinion. Rational people just don't do that.
I agree. IRL, I know several people of many different faiths. I work with christians of several denominations, hindus, muslims, atheists, sikhs, jews etc. Even agnostics. It is very rare that religion comes up, and when it usually does, it is related to what is acceptable to bring to a pot lock, or pointing out what contains meat/beef/pork on the table. I'll go ahead, and admit that I've decided that I would never join a religion that did not allow bacon. That's just wrong to me, but I have no problem with people that don't eat pork (leave more bacon for me).

I think the internet is a peculiar place, where people say things they would never say IRL. Either due to fear of legal repercussions or a punch in the nose.

Either way, I think the devout atheists come here to beat up on people trying to discuss aspects of their religion out of simple schadenfreude or for revenge for a past transgression by another.

Eh? It's a guess. Not many would admit it if true. One has, but that was a while ago, and It would not be polite to bring up his trauma again. That is for him to do if he wishes.

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Not virtually every. Only the most devout and pious among that faith have done that.
It'd be great if you could be more specific.

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They profess a passive belief, and yet are amazingly active in their proselytizing for the faith, with a surety and pureness of purpose that defies a passive belief.
Maybe the cause of atheists' bad manners is constantly having their position lied about and mischaracterised, among other things.
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I'm agnostic myself

Lurking around here you see both sides have a few that react the way Doc listed in the first post if you look at it honestly.

I couldn't tell you how many times dhimmi has been tossed at me.

I'll poke fun, like the imaginary friend post, but it's in jest usually.

It's pretty easy to see who's trying to remain respectful even when things get heated, just look at the capital letters.
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Maybe the cause of atheists' bad manners is constantly having their position lied about and mischaracterised, among other things.
Inconvenient truths happen. I've often pointed out that many self described atheists are actually mislabeled agnostics.

The more abrasive ones tend to be atheists that deny the definition of atheist. Odd?
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Not hatred just fact. Why else would an atheist hang out on a religious forum and attack believers?

This is just human nature. I have experienced it myself in the past. It goes along with holding grudges and bitter and resentful feelings.
You're not being attacked. You're being handled very gently. If you want to see attacks, go to a conference of professional researchers. What goes on in here is nothing.
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Why do you guys always pick on atheists? Do only religious people have morals and good behavior? Remember learning about the Inquisition? It wasn't the atheists torturing people. How about the Crusades? Again Christians trying to shove their religion down others throats. believe what you believe and leave others alone.
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Short answer: hypocrisy.

Medium answer: because they have no patience for stupidity and adherence to superstition.

Long answer: As a non-religious believer, I find atheistic intolerance to be less offensive compared to religious intolerance. At worst, to many atheists, I'm just dumb and wrong. To many religious folks, I'm dumb, wrong and I'm going to burn in hell.

I can understand a lack of tolerance for folks that reject reality because some desert dwellers thousands of years ago made up things to explain the world around them and to control their respective populaces from doing things that were deemed (rightly in some instances) not good for them or threatened the ruling class structure.

Many atheists simply will not tolerate the intolerance and/or stupidity of those claiming to be tolerant and informed.

Of all the mediums to argue against things science understands and provides, the greatest joke is to do it on the internet. A medium completely dependent on the veracity of all science as currently understood.

The interconnected nature of science from the quantum level up doesn't allow for a cafeteria selection of what one believes in and what is real. Any break in the chain and the whole structure collapses. I have far more respect for a religious person that adheres to all science and just believes "that's how God designed it" than I do for an atheist that posits no possibility for some form of Creator.

However, there simply is no evidence or need for such a creator, while there is ample evidence for science to be correct without one.
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I'm not trying to get into the whole debate over whether atheism is a religion or not, it is, but that's a different topic.


Why do so many atheists react with anger, bad manners, and emotional distress when someone simply has a different opinion than they do?
The same reason christians react similarly to different beliefs or, expecially, to atheists. Now multiply that by the fact that we are in a christian dominated society, where our daily lives are at least partly governed by christian beliefs, made law, and you get the idea why christians feel a lot more comfortable and a lot less oppressed. Atheists, wiccans, hindus, etc., are not very comfortable here, when the subject of religion comes up.
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Inconvenient truths happen. I've often pointed out that many self described atheists are actually mislabeled agnostics.

The more abrasive ones tend to be atheists that deny the definition of atheist. Odd?
Your definition of atheist sucks and is beyond stupid. Odd or perhaps convenient? Your middle of the road high ground approach on nearly every subject is tiresome and lacks conviction.

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Why do you guys always pick on atheists? Do only religious people have morals and good behavior? Remember learning about the Inquisition? It wasn't the atheists torturing people. How about the Crusades? Again Christians trying to shove their religion down others throats. believe what you believe and leave others alone.
Inquisition OK. The Crusades not so much.

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