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12-04-2012, 11:50
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Suspect in Cold Spring officer's shooting death is released without charges
Suspect in Cold Spring officer's shooting death is released without charges
In phone interview, Larson says he didn't kill officer
A link to the first url above was posted in the EOW thread for Officer Decker.
I thought it best for this discussion to move out of there.
SO, if he didn't do it, there is still a cop killer roaming the streets...
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Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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12-04-2012, 12:38
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Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
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RIP Ofc. Tommy Decker #6402 CSPD
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12-04-2012, 17:33
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http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/382261/
Suspect in Cold Spring slaying says he's innocent
ST. CLOUD, Minn. — The man arrested in the slaying of a Minnesota police officer says he was sleeping at the time and authorities have the wrong man.
If he is innocent, I hope they find the right guy. If he's guilty, well......
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12-04-2012, 22:37
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It does sound POSSIBLE he had nothing to do with it. Hopefully nobody will decide to "make it easy for family" and do something stupid.
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12-05-2012, 13:12
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“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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12-05-2012, 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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That was my initial thought as well.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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12-05-2012, 17:29
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Originally Posted by RussP
That was my initial thought as well.
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Me too. Innocent guy might say "can't" instead of "don't" have any evidence pointing to me. And finish with "because I didn't do it" at the end. I can see myself saying "can't".
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12-05-2012, 17:34
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I would agree IF he stated it like that. Has anyone heard the 10 minute interview? Or just words taken from it?
If he said it "like that" yep he sounds good for it. IF they took those words from over the entire interview.....
Last edited by larry_minn; 12-05-2012 at 18:11..
Reason: spelling.
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12-05-2012, 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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I agree. Guilty, just need the evidence.
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12-05-2012, 17:44
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Well, as long as he says he is innocent, what's the problem?
[yes, that was sarcasm]
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12-05-2012, 18:06
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I attended the funeral today, I was inspired by the show of folks who attended. I just have a heavy heart tonite as I type this, as it was a very sad and troubling day.
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12-05-2012, 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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I thought the same.
Prayers for the Officer's family and that justice is served swiftly.
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12-05-2012, 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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Yep. These statements are a blatant and defiant challenge to the investigators.
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12-05-2012, 19:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
Yep. These statements are a blatant and defiant challenge to the investigators.
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Correct and they show the suspect talking about the incident buy removing himself but not saying what he did, rather he says what others do not have..why ? Because he knows where the weapon is and what he did with it..
He also uses the classic I was asleep instead of just saying I did not do it....the sleep is his alibi..innocent men do not need an alibi,if they were not involved thy say it straight up.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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12-06-2012, 07:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
“Basically, they have no evidence whatsoever that points in my direction,” Larson said.
Larson added: “They have no gun, they have no fingerprints, they have nothing.”
take it from a long time investigator if these quotes are correct.
These are not the words of an innocent man...
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Exactly.
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12-06-2012, 11:27
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I can only hope the investigation continues to move forward.
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12-06-2012, 19:49
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I believe him: YET.
Hopefully they pursue every possible lead..
Good book by the way.
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12-09-2012, 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newcop761
I believe him:
YET.
Hopefully they pursue every possible lead..
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The rest of that post didn't load on my dial up.
I heard on radio they are raiding homes in twin cities for possible shooters of Officer Decker?
So they had enough evidence to get a judge to issue search warrenets. (radio made it sound like "NO Knock" ones??
So maybe the guy in Cold Spring didn't do it? (I still wonder if quotes from interview were staged) As media reported he sounded guilty as sin..
Those of you who have been quoted by media... What is said, what is reported... Makes a guy wonder sometimes.
Hopefully they will find evidence, make arrests, convictions soon.
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12-09-2012, 16:00
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Sure sounds like Bart Simpson,
"I didn't do it
nobody saw me
you can't prove a thing."
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12-09-2012, 22:26
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In his phone interview he states he went to bed about 8:17..... Unless something significant occurred to make that particular time stand out He is full of it right there. Media is reporting that CSPD were responding to a welfare check on the suspect. No answer during first attempted contact. An hour and change later they go back. Shortly after Decker is found in parking lot.
Suspect also down plays his text messages to his family saying that they misinterperated them. That his life has taken a new direction was what he sent.
Lets see...
34 years old, work at a bar you live over.....
Are currently back in school because you are trying to make something of your life.....
You are sending alarming text messages to your family causing them to be alarmed enough to request the police go check on you....
You remember the exact moment you fell asleep down to the odd minute.
Dont answer the first time they come knocking.
And the second time they show up an officer is ambushed and killed in the parking lot.
After you are arrested you call a media station to profess your innocence while taunting the police in your statements. But you dont have a lawyer because you say you cant afford one.
If it walks like a duck... Quacks like a duck............
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12-09-2012, 22:57
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Based solely off the media reports (and I'm quite aware they are full of **** 99% of the time), I get a strange feeling that the guy who lived above the bar didn't do it. In those transcripts it says two vehicles were speeding away from the scene and they didn't have much of a lockdown on the perimeter...I have a gut feeling that Ofc. Decker stumbled upon something and got ambushed, and the shooter(s) drove off.
I would attribute the comments from the guy as being general ****-head speak...he's probably had his fair share of run-in's with jonny law.
I don't know...but there's a reason Minneapolis PD, Hennepin SO, BCA, and FBI are raiding homes around Minneapolis and it isn't to look for Larson....
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12-10-2012, 04:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Metro566
Based solely off the media reports (and I'm quite aware they are full of **** 99% of the time), I get a strange feeling that the guy who lived above the bar didn't do it. In those transcripts it says two vehicles were speeding away from the scene and they didn't have much of a lockdown on the perimeter...I have a gut feeling that Ofc. Decker stumbled upon something and got ambushed, and the shooter(s) drove off.
I would attribute the comments from the guy as being general ****-head speak...he's probably had his fair share of run-in's with jonny law.
I don't know...but there's a reason Minneapolis PD, Hennepin SO, BCA, and FBI are raiding homes around Minneapolis and it isn't to look for Larson....
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FBI hmmm they did a real good job with Richard Jewel,, pretty much ruined his life.
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How do you establish intent?
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12-10-2012, 08:45
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19 Contacts with the Police in ten years. Seems like a bunch to me. How many of us here have had that kind of contact? Me twice in twelve years both times was due to a wreck in our front yard.
I think something is not quite right. If he is not the shooter I bet he knows the shooter.
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12-10-2012, 11:46
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12-10-2012, 16:36
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I had read that Ofc Decker was shot twice with a 20 gauge shotgun that no one can find, and was also found away from the building, near a bar minibus in the shadows. I didn't realize the timeline between the welfare call and his killing was so large. Was he the officer assigned to the initial welfare check, and if he didn't call back in service for over an hour, didn't dispatch find that unusual if/when they weren't able to reach him?
If this guy did it, the BCA will catch up with him. If not, or if he knows more than he's letting on, enough to be an accessory, he and whomever else did it will go down, too, but it's a bit more of a whodunnit.
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