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Old 12-04-2012, 19:24   #26
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That is some serious wishful thinking. As insane and contradictory as it is, I am certain JB believes every thing he posts.
I'm starting to wonder if JB is one of Molly's grandchildren.
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Old 12-04-2012, 19:43   #27
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Is there not at least one other Christian on this forum?
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Old 12-04-2012, 19:57   #28
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If I really had to guess what's going on in his head... it's the beginning of him losing his faith. I was the same way. I became enraged at non-believers for making all their sense and cried foul and played the victim. I lashed out because I was scared and confused because the comforting religion that had kept me warm and safe was failing apart around me. I think JB is on the edge of becoming an Atheist and he's lashing out at the ones breaking his chains. He's afraid we're dooming him to Hell for causing him to doubt his faith. He'd never admit it, and he'll fight it every step of the way... but I think we have a future free thinker on our hands... either that or a car bomber.
Eh, I don't know about. I think you're giving JB too much credit. I think he truly believes everything he says, and can't think enough to actually learn to think for himself. Instead, he just regurgitates everything he hears.

But I commend you for learning to think for yourself.

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Old 12-04-2012, 19:58   #29
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Is there not at least one other Christian on this forum?
If you consider yourself a true, diehard Christian, then I truly hope there isn't another like you.
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Old 12-04-2012, 20:05   #30
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Is there not at least one other Christian on this forum?
There are plenty of other Christians on the RI forum. The question is: is there not at least one other Christian on this forum willing to jump on your bandwagon?

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Old 12-04-2012, 20:25   #31
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This is stupid even by your low standards JB. Isn't it the believers that are supposed to fear god?

Do you fear god JB?

Ecclesiasties 8:12
John 9:31
Acts 10:2
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You did not answer my question about whether you fear god JB. Do you reek with fear of god?


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Is there not at least one other Christian on this forum?
Sure there are. But why would they want to be associated with a stupid post like the one you open this thread with?
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Old 12-04-2012, 20:28   #32
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Eh, I don't know about. I think you're giving JB too much credit. I think he truly believes everything he says, and can't think enough to actually learn to think for himself. Instead, he just regurgitates everything he hears.

But I commend you for learning to think for yourself.

Or hes just trolling us all SUPER hard, which I would hope is the case, but know it is not.
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Old 12-04-2012, 20:31   #33
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Or hes just trolling us all SUPER hard, which I would hope is the case, but know it is not.
That's also giving him too much credit.
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Old 12-04-2012, 20:53   #34
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Yes, I do fear God.
My favorite Bible verse is Ecclesiastes 12:13

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man’s all.


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Yes, I do fear God.
My favorite Bible verse is Ecclesiastes 12:13

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is manís all.


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So you reek with fear and project that fear and stench on others. Could you even conceive of doing right without your big bad boogeyman in the sky scaring the hell out of you? Too bad you are too devoid of decency to do right without having the boogeyman scaring the hell out of you.

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Yes, I do fear God.
Do you fear Odin, or Islam's Allah?

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Old 12-04-2012, 21:13   #37
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Yes, I do fear God.
My favorite Bible verse is Ecclesiastes 12:13

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is manís all.


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Do you have pictures of Jesus or God around your house?
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Do you have pictures of Jesus or God around your house?
No, because those are idols.
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Old 12-04-2012, 21:28   #39
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Or hes just trolling us all SUPER hard, which I would hope is the case, but know it is not.

Maybe I'm just dragging you blasphemers out into the open so God can see for himself?

I'm sure he enjoys a good laugh.
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No, because those are idols.
So why do churches have idols if they're against the second commandment?
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Old 12-04-2012, 22:36   #41
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Maybe I'm just dragging you blasphemers out into the open so God can see for himself?

I'm sure he enjoys a good laugh.
I'm not sure a super being needs a puny humans help. You are in big trouble for insulting Gods ability to smote. You should have more faith.

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Old 12-04-2012, 22:45   #42
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Maybe I'm just dragging you blasphemers out into the open so God can see for himself?

I'm sure he enjoys a good laugh.
Gee, and here I was thinking Christians believed their god to be all knowing and all seeing.

So, are you trying to say that you're not a christian because you don't believe what is written in the bible? Because if you did, then you'd already know that you don't need to drag anybody out into the open, because he can already see us, already know what is in our mind before even we know it, and he already knows what kind of people we are.

Maybe you should be afraid for not believing in your god, and not believing that he is as powerful as he claims he is. Because apparently he is a vengeful god, and doesn't like it when people don't believe him.

Although I'm still waiting for the supposed vengeance to be brought up on me.

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Old 12-04-2012, 22:52   #43
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Maybe I'm just dragging you blasphemers out into the open so God can see for himself?

I'm sure he enjoys a good laugh.
Is that an admission that your god can't see what's up without your help?
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Old 12-04-2012, 23:53   #44
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So why do churches have idols if they're against the second commandment?
Any chance you're going to answer this question, JB?
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Old 12-05-2012, 00:36   #45
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So why do churches have idols if they're against the second commandment?
Yeah really. Isn't kneeling before a giant paper mache statue of Christ on the cross spray painted gold worshiping an idol. I mean in and of itself it's just junk. Isn't that why Abraham destroyed his fathers idols? Because they were just wood and metal?

Isn't that Gold cross around some folk's necks and idol? And wouldn't Jesus frown on the lavish nature of using such expensive things to represent him?

What power does a rosery have?
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Old 12-05-2012, 00:39   #46
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Maybe I'm just dragging you blasphemers out into the open so God can see for himself?

I'm sure he enjoys a good laugh.
So you're being a stumbling block? You should be trying to bring us closer to Christ... not mocking us and driving us further away from him. Turn us your other cheek... remember? You are not an example of the Christ. You are as far from him as possible. You do no live in his example and you do not lead via his gospel. You have failed your messiah.
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Old 12-05-2012, 00:48   #47
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Yeah really. Isn't kneeling before a giant paper mache statue of Christ on the cross spray painted gold worshiping an idol. I mean in and of itself it's just junk. Isn't that why Abraham destroyed his fathers idols? Because they were just wood and metal?

Isn't that Gold cross around some folk's necks and idol? And wouldn't Jesus frown on the lavish nature of using such expensive things to represent him?

What power does a rosery have?
The one that always gets me is when people pray to Jesus, instead of God. Like "In Jesus' name we pray, amen." He's supposed to be the carpenter's son, a mortal man birthed by a mortal woman. So why are they raising him up to the same level as their God? Doesn't that go against the first commandment? Where they're only supposed to have one God?

And if God is such a vengeful and angry God, why hasn't the Sistine Chapel been destroyed for breaking the second commandment? It blatantly shows a picture of what Michelangelo thought God would look like, which blatantly breaks the second commandment.

I will admit I've been halfway tempted to go to church to watch someone burst into flames the moment they fall to their knees before the cross (idol) and begin praying to Jesus (wrong God). But unfortunately that apparently doesn't happen all too often.

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Any chance you're going to answer this question, JB?
JB is infamous for throwing out a totally ridiculous statement, and then just ignoring anybody who shows him just how wrong he is.
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Nothing personal TK but christian teaching does cover a lot of those arguments....not well,but they do. And a lot of those points pretain to Catholics, which are barely tolerated by other christians.

On the other hand, I do believe a guy once said don't praise the son for the works of the father. ( If somebody could find this scripture I would love to hold it up at football games)

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:23   #49
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Nothing personal TK but christian teaching does cover a lot of those arguments....not well,but they do. And a lot of those points pretain to Catholics, which are barely tolerated by other christians.

On the other hand, I do believe a guy once said don't praise the son for the works of the father. ( If somebody could find this scripture I would love to hold it up at football games)

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It does not surprise me in the least that christian teaching covers it, but I doubt that they do it well enough to pass muster. There are just too many contradictions in the bible for it to make much sense.

But you seem to be in the know, can you explain what's up with the old testament? I've heard that now it's outdated and people are told it doesn't mean as much as the new testament? Don't remember exactly what I heard, but it was something like that. Basically them saying "Oh, well all that stuff doesn't matter now, just ignore, pay attention to this new stuff we have."

If you can't tell, I don't know too much about religion, other than what I research so I can pick people's stories apart.

And what's the story on Noah's ark? The way I heard it, God told Noah to bring two of every animal onto his boat, along with his family, and then flooded the entire world, killing everything, and starting over fresh. Did he kill the grass, and the trees, and everything everything, or just the animals? I take it the fish were okay since they get their oxygen from the water. Or did he kill those too with acidic water or something? Did Noah bring other people? Or only his family? So that we're actually more closely related to Noah than we are to Adam and Eve?

And does the church frown on incest? If so, why? I mean, it's part of their history, if the bible is correct. Shouldn't it be praised for making us who we are today?

And yes, those are honest questions, for once I'm trying to not make fun of it, at least with you.
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That's a mouthful man. Most of those specifics aren't explained. Don't forget God was after the people not the animals. Don't try to figure out the logistics, that's where all mighty faith takes over. It does seem that the old testament is not taken as literally as the New. And what contradictions? LOL

You got me on the incest part....I never asked anybody that one. I believe Noah took is sons and their wives.



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