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Old 12-05-2012, 08:39   #1
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Is he bleepin stupid?!?!?!?

I never post here. Hell, I never read here. But I'm peeved off and GNG isn't the place.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-...28060.html?l=1

"Just do as I say or I'll tell everyone it's your fault."

I don't get why the "business leaders" don't tell him to pound sand. Honestly, I don't. The turdburgler has no business dealing with this at all. Of course, Reid and Pelosi are delighted he's taking lead - less potential blowback on them.

What's great is, if the Republicans rolled over and just passed whatever he wanted and we raised the debt limit to eleventybillion trillion, our debt would be downgraded. . . and somehow it would be the Republicans' fault.

I just don't get how we get to a place where economic fantasy becomes economic fact.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:01   #2
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Arrogant is too bland a word to describe Obama. He really is a walking, talking example of NPD.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:26   #3
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I never post here. Hell, I never read here. But I'm peeved off and GNG isn't the place.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-...28060.html?l=1

"Just do as I say or I'll tell everyone it's your fault."

I don't get why the "business leaders" don't tell him to pound sand. Honestly, I don't. The turdburgler has no business dealing with this at all. Of course, Reid and Pelosi are delighted he's taking lead - less potential blowback on them.

What's great is, if the Republicans rolled over and just passed whatever he wanted and we raised the debt limit to eleventybillion trillion, our debt would be downgraded. . . and somehow it would be the Republicans' fault.

I just don't get how we get to a place where economic fantasy becomes economic fact.
Dennis those "business leaders" who are beneficiaries of the crony-capitalist complex will never tell him to go pound salt. All that "quantitative easing" (monetizing the debt) flows directly to the well connected cronies. And quit worrying about all that debt! Your buddies down at the Fed can just print more money. It's the Keynesian way! Weeeeeeeeee!
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:37   #4
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Wayne Rogers finally used the correct word to describe what's going on............. Fascism. He's just as perplexed as most of us that it is not being legally challenged by anyone. Cause, that's how we solve things in this country, the courts. Oh, wait.........
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:00   #5
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Dennis those "business leaders" who are beneficiaries of the crony-capitalist complex will never tell him to go pound salt. All that "quantitative easing" (monetizing the debt) flows directly to the well connected cronies. And quit worrying about all that debt! Your buddies down at the Fed can just print more money. It's the Keynesian way! Weeeeeeeeee!
That's all very true, and ZIRP forces investors and banks to put their money in the stock market to artificially inflate stock prices, but what they're doing is well beyond Keynesian economics.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:33   #6
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:16   #8
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The mainstream media has signaled him to make the big push now.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:32   #9
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That's all very true, and ZIRP forces investors and banks to put their money in the stock market to artificially inflate stock prices, but what they're doing is well beyond Keynesian economics.
Yup. Fodder for the big boys.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:52   #10
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“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership . Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."
Then Senator, Barack Obama March 16, 2006
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:59   #11
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This problem started long ago and it is our fault (the people) for not stopping it before it got out of hand.
But the elected folks of today are not helping at all.
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Up until yesterday I was believing along GOP party lines about how a tax increase on the upper 2% or "job creators" would negatively affect the economy. Then my daughter in law shared with me this video that explains that the middle class are the real job creators, not the rich. Anyone care to school me on why this is right or wrong, and if this is not the reason why Republicans are against raising taxes on the top 2%, then why?

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Raising taxes isn't going to decrease the deficit or the debt. He wants it for three reasons:

1. Gin up class warfare among the masses.
2. Use a hugely unpopular idea to divide and conquer Republicans and/or ensure that the fiscal cliff happens.
3. Use the tax increases to pay for more stimulus plans (he's openly said this).
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
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Interesting, he claims to want to give Mortgage and student Loan debt relief by just cancelling them, and then says the way to handle debt is to just ignore it.

What a financial genius.
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
Didn't you vote for him? You tell me. What is he?
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
Fascism, or national socialism, is hardly right wing. That's historical revisionism. Besides, neo-Marxism combines the two ideologies anyway. Don't fall into the trap of excluding ideologies based on narrow definitions and narrow labels from 100 years ago, that's how they convert you into their thinking without you realizing it.
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I was gonna mention someones definitions are a wee bit off.'08.
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Interesting, he claims to want to give Mortgage and student Loan debt relief by just cancelling them, and then says the way to handle debt is to just ignore it.

What a financial genius.
If Europe, Japan, and China all agree to do the same thing, then it doesn't really matter. If anyone else refuses to play along, they'll have a few navies parked on their shores until they achieve enlightenment.
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“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership . Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."
Then Senator, Barack Obama March 16, 2006
Every Republican Congressman should get up and read this, one after the other, verbatim, and with proper attribution, at the next debate on raising the debt limit.
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
That is just regurgitating the revisionist re definitionofthe terms to set up a win/win for the liberal revisionists.

Fascism AND socialism AND Communism/Marxism are all on the same end of the spectrum and freedom is on the other. Facism is not on the Conservative end of the spectrum nor ist it a goal. It has been placed there, in discussion, falsely by revisionists in their "New View" so they can propose socialism as a lesser of two evils.
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So is he a right wing fascist or a left wing communist? Which one? Come one, just pick one? Or does it depend on your own clueless wonderment of your leaders.
I don't know exactly what to call him, but Cloward and Piven approve of what he seems to be trying to do.
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Fascism and communism are kissing cousins. It is a common misconception that the opposite of communism is fascism sine we equate fascism and naziism as one and the same, it is not. Naziism was a socialist movement, and socialism is the precursor to communism.

HWSNBN, uses fascist tactics to implement communist dogma. The socialist party has its blamegame in fine form. They are not responsible for anything bad, the other guy is. With the MSM on their side, it's a lock. The republican party and the republic is dying, if not dead.
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Arrogant is too bland a word to describe Obama. He really is a walking, talking example of NPD.
True, so very true.
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