RIA 10mm on the way! - Page 3

cowboywannabe · 12-09-2012, 04:39

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Originally Posted by 4949shooter

I sm thinking what the others have suggested, that RIA doesn't have a whole lot of experience with 10mm.

Even Colt had issues at first with their Delta Elite (as you know).

i figured this was common knowledge in the gun making community....5" 1911 10mm needs a 20 pound spring at least....im just the layman and i knew it.

however, the 10mm is a uniquely American cartridge and RIA ia filipino so maybe they just dont know much about it.

i put an 18.5 pound spring in my RIA .45 gi model, the 16 pounder just seemed a little weak to me.

Gary1911A1 · 12-09-2012, 05:04

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Originally Posted by 4949shooter

I sm thinking what the others have suggested, that RIA doesn't have a whole lot of experience with 10mm.

Even Colt had issues at first with their Delta Elite (as you know).

RIA doesn't seem to be the only one. The EAA Witness 10MM also come out of the box with a weaker recoil spring than what is needed. I get the impression they just use the same recoil spring in all models.

4949shooter · 12-09-2012, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Gary1911A1

RIA doesn't seem to be the only one. The EAA Witness 10MM also come out of the box with a weaker recoil spring than what is needed. I get the impression they just use the same recoil spring in all models.

Probably so. Even Glock uses the same recoil spring in the G20 as they do in their .45 cal G21. Though, the G20 slide is beefed up compared to the G21 slide.

cowboywannabe · 12-09-2012, 05:16

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Originally Posted by 4949shooter

Probably so. Even Glock uses the same recoil spring in the G20 as they do in their .45 cal G21. Though, the G20 slide is beefed up compared to the G21 slide.

isnt the standard recoil spring for a (1911).45acp 16 pounds? that being a known, why on earth would they use a 14 pounder for the 10mm?

either way, if and when i buy one of these RIA 10mm i will install the proper spring before i fire a shot.

SigFTW · 12-09-2012, 14:15

A repost from my 10mm threat:

I talked to the gunsmith at RIA again and he insist that a heavier spring, heavier than 16# would not work in the RIA 1911 10mm, He tried that out himself. I asked about the Colt Delta Elite 10mm using a 20+lb spring and he said because they had feed issues. He also said to add a shock buffer by WC, this will help.

The only was to verify the claim by the RIA 10mm GS is to put it through the test. I will let y'all know what I find out when the springs come in. The 16# will be here Monday or Tuesday, I'll order a 20 and 21lb Monday.

4949shooter · 12-09-2012, 17:46

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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe

isnt the standard recoil spring for a (1911).45acp 16 pounds? that being a known, why on earth would they use a 14 pounder for the 10mm?

I guess what I was trying to say was that the Glock 20 slide is beefed up compared the the G21 slide, which enables Glock to use the same poundage on the recoil spring.

cowboywannabe · 12-09-2012, 18:12

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Originally Posted by 4949shooter

I guess what I was trying to say was that the Glock 20 slide is beefed up compared the the G21 slide, which enables Glock to use the same poundage on the recoil spring.

you were clear, i knew what you meant. i was just opining on the 1911 theory. the only differences im hearing about are the bull bbl instead of standard bbl and bushing....

4949shooter · 12-09-2012, 18:13

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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe

you were clear, i knew what you meant. i was just opining on the 1911 theory. the only differences im hearing about are the bull bbl instead of standard bbl and bushing....

I agree that 14 pound spring sounds too weak for anything in a 1911, except maybe a 9mm.