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12-06-2012, 21:08
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Misanthropist
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentak
How do you know this?
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It doesn't matter how I know it.
You're incapable of mentally comprehending anything outside your own limited sphere of experience, or anything that might exist beyond your own lifespan.
All you know to do is criticize, mock and belittle anything you don't understand. Spirituality is lost on you, and most science probably is too.
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12-06-2012, 21:13
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the wrong hands
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Now I'm getting nervous. What if god is just one of the members of the Q continuum that got so bored with the universe that he wants to kill himself... and they won't let him. Maybe we were just created to provide an eternity of company to his misery?
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12-06-2012, 21:22
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Misanthropist
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Originally Posted by Gunhaver
... Maybe we were just created to provide an eternity of company to his misery?
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It's more likely we were created to share in his glory.
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12-06-2012, 22:07
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Nashville
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Any heaven, if it does exist, surely could not be described in corporeal terms.
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12-06-2012, 22:31
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Location: Round Rock, TX
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Originally Posted by muscogee
It will be a rough place for people who don't like a totalitarian government telling them what to do. It's run by a dictator who controls everything. You don't get to vote on anything and your opinion isn't welcome. Of course, no one works which means they're all on welfare.
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Exactly.
You get to live in North Korea for all eternity. That sure sounds like a lot of fun to have no freedom, no free will, and no free thought. I get to do only what our dear leader tells me I can do. Deviate from it in the slightest, and it is off to be tortured in the lake of fire.
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12-06-2012, 22:31
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#31
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Well we will have 17 virgins and........Oh wait, that's the other place.
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12-06-2012, 22:41
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#32
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Senior Member
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Location: Tampa
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If only someone we knew would come back from the dead and tell us.
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12-07-2012, 03:43
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guss
If only someone we knew would come back from the dead and tell us.
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IMO, near death experiences are the basis for the belief in Heaven.
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12-07-2012, 04:52
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New Jersey...sucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentak
How do you know this?
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JBnTX knows a lot of things that don't have a source in reality.
What I want to know about heaven is, is it a lot like Dixie? I mean, do they have a Grand Ole Opry, like they do in Tennessee? Are there honey trees and crazy little weeds growin around your shack? Any pretty little southern belles? If not, then just send me to hell or New York City; it would be about the same to me.
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12-07-2012, 06:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
It doesn't matter how I know it.
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Scriptural Basis?
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12-07-2012, 06:23
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Where's my EBT?
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Rot, just like the rest of us.
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12-07-2012, 06:32
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Rip Lips
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I hope Kate Upton is there.
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12-07-2012, 06:54
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Well, we won't be in heaven. The Bible never says this. Eventually the New Jerusalem will come down to the new earth. Heaven and the material world will be one and the same. God's thrown will be here. This was the promise to Abraham.
There's a whole bit universe out there. I'm sure we'll have plenty to do, whatever that is.
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12-07-2012, 07:24
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#39
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Senior Member
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In Heaven there is no beer.
That's why we drink it here.
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12-07-2012, 08:07
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the wrong hands
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brasso
Well, we won't be in heaven. The Bible never says this. Eventually the New Jerusalem will come down to the new earth. Heaven and the material world will be one and the same. God's thrown will be here. This was the promise to Abraham.
There's a whole bit universe out there. I'm sure we'll have plenty to do, whatever that is.
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That's very similar to what the JWs believe but god doesn't take care of matters himself. Just Armageddon and then the chosen (meaning the JWs) left behind to rebuild the ruins with only 144,000 going to heaven. The rebuilders will have a 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ to work while they gradually attain perfection and then the earth will be a paradise again.
They didn't like the idea of me going to med school, military or the police academy and said hell no to geology or paleontology because those are useless professions in a perfect world but I was swinging hammers and laying bricks since before I can remember.
Sometimes I wish I was born Jewish so I would have been pushed into something more than construction trades.
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12-07-2012, 08:10
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Giddy up!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentak
Why would you need farmers? Dead people eat? Why? If they do, are they vegetarians? Carrots go to heaven? I thought you just sit around on clouds and play harps. Are there video games in heaven? Casinos? Can we have sex?
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I hope we can have sex in heaven, I've met a few hot nuns that I'd like to see again.
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12-07-2012, 08:11
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CLM Number 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xfarfuldog
What will we do in Heaven?
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Hookers and blow...
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12-07-2012, 08:37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
It doesn't matter how I know it.
You're incapable of mentally comprehending anything outside your own limited sphere of experience, or anything that might exist beyond your own lifespan.
All you know to do is criticize, mock and belittle anything you don't understand. Spirituality is lost on you, and most science probably is too.
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The two parts in bold almost made me throw up in my mouth. They are completely incompatible statements.
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12-07-2012, 08:41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I've been there. It's like earth, but cleaner.
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12-07-2012, 08:46
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CLM Number 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
It's more likely we were created to share in his glory.
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And after we're all done blowing each other, then what?
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Peace is our profession (war is just a hobby)
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12-07-2012, 08:47
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CLM Number 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheExplorer
I've been there. It's like earth, but cleaner.
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Singapore?
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Peace is our profession (war is just a hobby)
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12-07-2012, 09:25
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CLM Number 265
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunhaver
That's very similar to what the JWs believe but god doesn't take care of matters himself. Just Armageddon and then the chosen (meaning the JWs) left behind to rebuild the ruins with only 144,000 going to heaven.
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There's a fantastic old Jehovah Witness saying: We are the pure and chosen few, and all the rest are damned.
There’s room enough in hell for you — we don’t want heaven crammed. -ArtificialGrape
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12-07-2012, 09:44
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Senior Member
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Location: Central Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenDrake
I hope Kate Upton is there.
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Oh, so true!
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12-07-2012, 09:50
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Location: TX
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I believe in God and heaven but heaven sounds like a dreadful bore. Will there be politics? Will we still have to deal with folks that suck up to God to try to get a better deal?
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12-07-2012, 12:36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: My home is in heaven
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The Bible has the answers. God will give us a piece of land in the country and a room in the city. There will be plenty of things to do beside gardening, building and getting to know millions of close friends as well as travel to billions of stars with their inhabitants.
Isaiah 65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
Isaiah 65:23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
Isaiah 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
We will not marry in heaven. All of heaven is a very close family much closer than we experience now.
Luke 20:31 And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
Luke 20:32 Last of all the woman died also.
Luke 20:33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage.
Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
The pet? Maybe. There will be animals that we get along with and who get along with all of the other animals.
Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
We will not need to sleep. There will be no night. There will be no fatigue.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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