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Old 01-02-2013, 10:02   #1
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Bourne series: looking for something similar..

Anyone know of any series with similar depth to the bourne series books? Seems most modern spy novels are shallow.
any ideas?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:05   #2
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Have you read any Stephen Hunter?

Not necessarily JBish, but really, really good. REALLY good
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:29   #3
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Look for the Matt Helm series by Donald Hamilton. You may have to haunt your local library to find them. Donald Hamilton was also a gun writer and knew his stuff so you won't be grinding your teeth over 'mistakes'.

Don Pendelton's The Executioner series is a good read, as is Jerry Ahern's The Survivalist series. Another good one is The Destroyer series by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir.

There's enough reading there to keep you busy for quite a while!

Oops! I left out the Jack Reacher books by Lee Child.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:36   #4
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Not a book, but "The Man from Nowhere" was South Korea's 2010 Movie of the Year and is a great super-assassin-turned-normal-guy-forced-to-use-training movie. It is subtitled, but if you don't mind that, this is a great flick to watch while you're researching books to read.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:21   #5
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I just got into the Jack Reacher books, and have to say they're pretty good.

I've always been a fan of the John MacDonald series about "Travis McGee". Great series, 21 books in all. Lee Child's Jack Reacher is pretty close.

Lee does make several mistakes about gun related stuff, as long as you don't get too picky about some details, good reading.

If you go with the Jack Reacher books, try to read them in order. You can read one without reading all the others to enjoy it, but he does bring up past details that occurred in previous books occasionally.
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Vince Flynn and Brad Thor.

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Those are all good authors. Also google:
Daniel Silva
Was D Baldacci named yet?

Joe Nobody (Holding Their Own series)
James Wesly Rawles; The Patriot - (a novel of survival in the Coming Collapse), and sequels Survivors and Founders
I like Aherns, The Survivalist series. I had to restock that on my shelves buying used copies after i dumbly got rid of mine in a swap.
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I still have crush on the Canadian economist chick from the first Bourne book.

My guess is it'll be close to impossible to find character development and backdrop development - Black-Ops, Euro-banking, police etc. as Ludlum demonstrated during his prime. For a novel the first Bourne book is reasonably difficult reading.


ETA - I'm not sure Ludlum would make it now.
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I've never read a page from Flynn. Should I start from his chronological beginnings or is there a later title I should seek out. Thx.
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I've never read a page from Flynn. Should I start from his chronological beginnings or is there a later title I should seek out. Thx.
"Term Limits" is the first, and in my opinion, the best. But they are all good. I've just started the latest, "The Last Man".

And yes, they should be read in order, but it is not necessary.
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Google and Amazon both have easy to find lists of the Mitch Rapp books in order; I'm about half way through...
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Old 01-02-2013, 13:26   #13
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Most of the other series I could think of from the top of my head were already mentioned

If you want something a little different, try the John Rain books by Barry Eisler. I thnk Rain Fall was the first. Very enjoyable series.

Not many authors are able to interweave the plot with the details and writing style of Ludlum.
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Those are all good authors. Also google:
Daniel Silva
Was D Baldacci named yet?

Joe Nobody (Holding Their Own series)
James Wesly Rawles; The Patriot - (a novel of survival in the Coming Collapse), and sequels Survivors and Founders
I like Aherns, The Survivalist series. I had to restock that on my shelves buying used copies after i dumbly got rid of mine in a swap.
And in the same genre, Matthew Bracken's "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" trilogy is a good choice.
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"Term Limits" is the first, and in my opinion, the best. But they are all good. I've just started the latest, "The Last Man".

And yes, they should be read in order, but it is not necessary.
I agree, read them in order. I just finished The Last Man while on vacation last week, it is by far my favorite series.
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Kyle Mills has a series with FBI Agent Mark Beamon that I like.
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Most of the other series I could think of from the top of my head were already mentioned

If you want something a little different, try the John Rain books by Barry Eisler. I thnk Rain Fall was the first. Very enjoyable series.

Not many authors are able to interweave the plot with the details and writing style of Ludlum.
I just started the first one of that series. Pretty good so far.
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Most of the other series I could think of from the top of my head were already mentioned

If you want something a little different, try the John Rain books by Barry Eisler. I thnk Rain Fall was the first. Very enjoyable series.

Not many authors are able to interweave the plot with the details and writing style of Ludlum.
Everyone's taste for writing style is different, but I can not for the life of me like Ludlum. I don't like Bourne and I really can't even make myself read the Covert-One series anymore.

He is one of the most successful authors in history, but I just don't like his books.
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"Term Limits" is the first, and in my opinion, the best. But they are all good. I've just started the latest, "The Last Man".

And yes, they should be read in order, but it is not necessary.
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Vince Jacker and Nick Puller are both excellent series.
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Everyone's taste for writing style is different, but I can not for the life of me like Ludlum. I don't like Bourne and I really can't even make myself read the Covert-One series anymore.

He is one of the most successful authors in history, but I just don't like his books.
I like Ludlum more than you do but I certainly get your point. His writing is very blocky and dense - like data dense. His style is very gray too. Sort-of like John le Carre - whom I also cannot put down. I see a trend.
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Another vote for Vince Flynn and reading them in order.
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I like Ludlum more than you do but I certainly get your point. His writing is very blocky and dense - like data dense. His style is very gray too. Sort-of like John le Carre - whom I also cannot put down. I see a trend.
George Smiley is a great character.
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