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Old 01-02-2013, 23:57   #1
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Questioned about open carry while at In N Out

My boys and I spent New Year's Day out in the desert engaging in various firearm related activities. Toward the evening we packed up put everything back in the truck and headed for our usual post shooting activity, a cheeseburger at In n Out. Mind you we were a bit scruffy and dusty from being in the desert all day but that didn't stop our hunger.

I mostly carry concealed and was doing so this day, while my son(19) had a Glock 21 on a Blackhawk holster in open carry position on his hip. We walked in and I didn't notice he still had the gun on his hip until he got back up to refill his drink. When he got back and sat down I told him he should have not have open carried and he gave me a, "dad puhlease!" look. I have to admit I'm not used to him carrying in public although he is very educated with firearm safety and protocols. I have no qualms about it but it just caught me by surprise. No big deal, in my mind they are still little boys but in reality they are young men.

The placed was packed with people waiting for people to get up so they could grab a table. All finished we put all the trash on the trays and get up to leave. I'm about 3 people behind my son as we walk over to the trash can and I hear a older man ask my son, "hey do you need a license to carry that?". My son replied "no sir, in Az you can open carry as long as your older than 18". The man then asks what kind of gun it is with my son replying it being a Glock 21. The man then said "I got scared when I saw you walk in with that". Without skipping a beat my son said "you shouldn't feel scared, you should feel safe". I don't think the man was expecting that response because he paused for a second and then smiled.

I thought about that evening and realized he's figured it out. He could have been cocky and that man might think differently about people gun owners. He could have been over the top about his rights and that man might have created stereotypes about gun owners. I appreciated him being low key and personable and I think that guy appreciated it to. And I know other people in the place where watching and listening to.
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Old 01-03-2013, 00:21   #2
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That's exactly the kind of mentality we need to get people to assume. Don't be a dick to other people just because they don't share your views. Be calm, polite, and try to educate them in a way that will make them think, instead of making them you're a ******.

Hopefully then people will start realizing they don't need to worry about the guy calmly carrying a firearm on his hip, they need to worry about the guy who busts in screaming and waving a gun. But only worry long enough for the guy with the gun on his hip to draw and fire.
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Old 01-03-2013, 00:55   #3
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The major problem with open carry is it frightens the sheeple.

Too many people in CA did the open carry protest/education thing, now open carry is illegal as of 2013.

The guy that spoke to you was fine, but the dozen people that didn't say anything to you probably were scared and don't like it

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:23   #4
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Good job your kid for being a cool customer and thanks to you for raising him to be a good ambassador gun rights.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:16   #5
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Originally Posted by elsolo View Post

Too many people in CA did the open carry protest/education thing, now open carry is illegal as of 2013.

In CA they could not open carry loaded guns, so it was far more of a political statement than anything else.

Anglin, your son seems as if he was well raised. Dad deserves a cold one at home.
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