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Old 01-14-2013, 18:51   #61
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There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Old 01-14-2013, 19:20   #62
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I'm over there with Gandhi who told the British,
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About as expected, my social liberal streak cancels out my fiscal conservative side, and tend towards libertarian fairly consistently.

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Old 01-14-2013, 20:27   #64
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It is interesting that everyone so far has scored firmly in libertarian territory. It seems odd that we can't find more common ground. I would genuinely like to see how theists score on the test. Any takers?
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Obviously, guessing how others would answer is far from accurate. Anyone who believes Barry is farther right than I am is either incompetent or deceitful. And your exercise met your preconceived expectations, not too surprising that you got the result you desperately have been wishing for.

There are quite a few people that believe the WBC is a business, not a church. That they don't believe what they are saying, and very carefully say it in such a way that protects them legally. But who knows for sure what is in a man's mind other than himself. We do know that Phelps and You endorsed Obama. Phelps is under that large democrat tent either way. He's on your team. Maybe you can get tickets and hang out with him at the inauguration?
Try it yourself. See how far you can get him on the left while actually trying to be honest about how he'd answer. I really don't think you have anything other than Fred running as a Democrat and the other saying he endorsed Obama (cause he's the Antichrist and will bring about the end times they've all been chomping the bit for) or you would have made with it by now.
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It is interesting that everyone so far has scored firmly in libertarian territory. It seems odd that we can't find more common ground. I would genuinely like to see how theists score on the test. Any takers?
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Old 01-14-2013, 21:48   #67
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It is interesting that everyone so far has scored firmly in libertarian territory. It seems odd that we can't find more common ground. I would genuinely like to see how theists score on the test. Any takers?
I was close to the center which is where I always considered myself.
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Old 01-14-2013, 22:04   #68
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I was close to the center which is where I always considered myself.
True, of those that have responded thus far, you are closest to the center. Another reason why I am eager to see where some of the more vocal theists here place.
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Try it yourself. See how far you can get him on the left while actually trying to be honest about how he'd answer. I really don't think you have anything other than Fred running as a Democrat and the other saying he endorsed Obama (cause he's the Antichrist and will bring about the end times they've all been chomping the bit for) or you would have made with it by now.
So, let me see if I got this straight. You want to put up your imagination up against the Phelps clan running as Democrats and, supporting democrat candidates, and endorsing democrats.

You're imagined "Phelp's" responses put into a political pigeon holing program vs. reality.


Naw. I'm going to stick with reality.
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About the middle. Where I'd expect.
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Still no theist takers on Doc's test?
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So I am theist.

Did I fall where you thought I would?

Do I come across this way?

Thanks.

Just noticed that I am about the same as the Dalai Lama

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It is interesting that everyone so far has scored firmly in libertarian territory. It seems odd that we can't find more common ground. I would genuinely like to see how theists score on the test. Any takers?
I have a suspicion that some people skewed their answers to get a desired result. It was brought up in a GTPI thread.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...1463541&page=6


All other things aside, and I mean that, these are not the posts of a libertarian.

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If CF is libertarian then he effectively voted for the same guy I did. So what's his problem?

And if I don't mind paying more taxes but you do than that quite bluntly isn't my problem either so we're even. If you expect me to feel worse for your slight tax burden than I do for my girlfriends illness then you have a lot more convincing to do. Better make some coffee because you'll be up late.

I'm not entitled to your money. It's not your money. It's everyone's and when it comes to the point where some people are facing death or extreme poverty and others are swimming in cash I don't mind leveling the playing field a bit.
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I have a different view of money than many here obviously, and I'm going to attempt to explain my thought process with an analogy.

Money isn't paper, precious metal or electronic impulses inside bank computers. Money is a fluid.

It's the hydraulic fluid that pushes our entire economy around. That fluid pushes people out of bed in the morning to go to work. It pushes our cars to our jobs and our food onto our tables. It pushes everything we want and need to where we want and need it to be. The more of that fluid flow you can control the more you can push around to your particular ends.

The banks are the fluid reservoirs and pumps of this hydraulic system. When money is put into offshore accounts or so much is locked up in savings accounts that it never moves anywhere then that's a drain on the efficiency of the whole system. Something should be done to free that fluid up and make it easier for others to use to do work for them. If the controllers of those large amounts of fluid refuse to put it back into the system by spending or investing it the answer is not to give them even more fluid. The answer is to take it back and put into the system again regardless of their complaints or the complaints of those that have delusions of someday also being able to lock up large amounts of OUR fluid in their own stagnant pools.

This is what people are starting to realize. Those people sitting on huge reservoirs of "our" hydraulic fluid and not doing a proportional amount of "pumping" are the biggest part of the problem. They're no better than those that have no fluid and do no pumping but they're a much bigger problem because they're a bigger drain on the system.

Now enter higher taxes on those individuals to get the system up to speed again and those people may be pissed that they're not as in control as they once were but the net result is that the system is moving better. This is called "redistribution of wealth" (fine if those people are so inept at keeping it distributed in the first place) or "socialism" (not really so bad if it can ever really happen without the same greedy drainers at the top) by people who have the most to lose and their respective fanboys but those people are by no means a critical part of the system. They can always be replaced by more efficient pumps.
It's kind of obvious that does not match with this.

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Only way I can describe that is a position that Liberty is something that he should have, and authoritarian control is what all others should experience. It's very oddly incompatible. But it's only a test, created by people. Who knows.
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I have a suspicion that some people skewed their answers to get a desired result. It was brought up in a GTPI thread.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...1463541&page=6


All other things aside, and I mean that, these are not the posts of a libertarian.



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It's kind of obvious that does not match with this.

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Only way I can describe that is a position that Liberty is something that he should have, and authoritarian control is what all others should experience. It's very oddly incompatible. But it's only a test, created by people. Who knows.
Why are you such a pot stirrer? Bringing one thread into another and another and another. Why do you have such a hard on for Gunhaver and Myself?
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Why do you have such a hard on for Gunhaver and Myself?
Because you and I have burned him more than the others and he's butthurt about it.
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...Of course, Agnostics should be able to roam both forums, or at least be assigned to one...
Agnostic theists or agnostic atheists? Both?
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Pretty much inline with the Dalai Lama!
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Old 01-15-2013, 16:27   #80
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All other things aside, and I mean that, these are not the posts of a libertarian.

Correction; those are not the posts of a RIGHT libertarian. You do understand what the horizontal plane of that chart represents?

You are a rightist. You believe in the individual. I'm a leftist. I believe in society as a whole. We both believe in minimal government. You want that minimal gov. to protect you from the actions of other individuals. I want that extended to the actions of other large groups that try to horde power and resources.

In the absence of right or left libertarian candidates you vote for the more right authoritarian guy and I vote for the more left one. Funny thing is that I'm really more about the vertical plane of that scale than the horizontal one.

Anybody care to search up my Paul supporter posts? He's right lib. and I was much more in favor of him than Obama. Unfortunately Paul wasn't interested in forcing Christianity and drug prohibition or gay marriage and free birth control on us so nobody on either side wanted him and not nearly enough people took him seriously.

I'm not a whiny ***** like CF so I voted for the left authoritarian over the right one and then look at the bright side of that (Obamacare for my lady friend) and you all jump my ass like it was my idea. You guys that are so worried about gov. power might do well to pay close attention to the next guy that sounds like Paul.
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