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Old 01-18-2013, 09:26   #151
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Isn't it illegal to pose as a Doctor and toss out unsolicited diagnoses on the internet?

It should be.
I know this is a joke, but when someone says "there should be a law..." I almost always disagree. Just think it through. If you want to outlaw something, do you think the people who disagree with you should be shot if they will not comply?
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I know this is a joke, but when someone says "there should be a law..." I almost always disagree. Just think it through. If you want to outlaw something, do you think the people who disagree with you should be shot if they will not comply?
Depends on the law. Like it being illegal to molest kids... yeah I kinda think those that break that law need to be shot. Posing as a doctor and handing out bogus diagnoses... maybe a $10K fine and loss of whatever medical licenses that are held.

I don't suggest the death penalty for all offenses.
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The challenge was can you prove it exists... Yes we can.

You can't measure it... depends on what you mean. Can we measure it in Fluffies? No. But we can measure it's effects on brain chemistry and biology.

You can't describe it...

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Love and sexual attraction are separate. Younger guys tend to mix that up a lot. It's ok to love your dog for instance. It doesn't mean you want to take that to another level.

Hearts are a symbol of affection and or love. But it's not a picture of love itself. I guess you just have to believe love exists because you feel it in your __________.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:45   #154
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Depends on the law. Like it being illegal to molest kids... yeah I kinda think those that break that law need to be shot. Posing as a doctor and handing out bogus diagnoses... maybe a $10K fine and loss of whatever medical licenses that are held.

I don't suggest the death penalty for all offenses.
And if they will not comply?
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The challenge was can you prove it exists... Yes we can.

You can't measure it... depends on what you mean. Can we measure it in Fluffies? No. But we can measure it's effects on brain chemistry and biology.

You can't describe it...

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And yet when I read your definition it fails to accurately describe the feeling when my kid wraps her arms around my neck. Perhaps you've never experienced it. It lies somewhere between ecstasy and wanting to cut my own heart out with a knife and give it to her. Go figure.

And regarding brain chemistry and anatomy, they're measuring brain chemistry and anatomy. Many of those things can be mimicked by unrelated stimuli, or drugs.

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Ah, so you are going to word parse to avoid accepting evidence. I guess love is not an emmotion to you. Got it.
Not parsing but being brief. Perhaps you could quote the relevant portion. I'm working on a phone today.

What test should I use to determine which of my children I love more, or any other variations in that love. It's an age old question. Surely scientists have figured it out.
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And if they will not comply?
Jerk the License and start collections on the fine plus penalties and interest.
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And yet when I read your definition it fails to accurately describe the feeling when my kid wraps her arms around my neck. Perhaps you've never experienced it. It lies somewhere between ecstasy and wanting to cut my own heart out with a knife and give it to her. Go figure.
Gross.

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And regarding brain chemistry and anatomy, they're measuring brain chemistry and anatomy. Many of those things can be mimicked by unrelated stimuli, or drugs.
For sure. The brain is only a biochemical computer. With the right misfire you can feel the same love you have for your kid for a perfect stranger. There's nothing magical, supernatural, or spiritual about us.
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For sure. The brain is only a biochemical computer. With the right misfire you can feel the same love you have for your kid for a perfect stranger. There's nothing magical, supernatural, or spiritual about us.
Yeah I figured you've never experienced it.

My point being, science doesn't have an answer for every question and to the best of my knowledge, cannot create life. There are many things unexplained. Someone who denies the existence of a creator is closed minded.
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Depends on the law. Like it being illegal to molest kids... yeah I kinda think those that break that law need to be shot. Posing as a doctor and handing out bogus diagnoses... maybe a $10K fine and loss of whatever medical licenses that are held.

I don't suggest the death penalty for all offenses.
Be honest with your history, and you are much more likely to get an accurate result.

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Isn't it illegal to pose as a Doctor and toss out unsolicited diagnoses on the internet?

It should be.
It would be like Colonel Sanders giving military advice.
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Yeah I figured you've never experienced it.
I just found your choice of words gross.

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My point being, science doesn't have an answer for every question and to the best of my knowledge
No one said it did.

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We're real close on that one.

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Fewer and fewer things everyday. And what we keep finding over and over is that many things attributed to God happened all on their own and didn't need a God to happen at all.

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Someone who denies the existence of a creator is closed minded.
Few people deny such. What many people deny is that there has been verifiable evidence that there ever was or is a creator and therefore no reason to ASSUME there is one. On the flip side of your coin people that assume a creator are delusional as they have nothing to base it on but a lack of understanding of nature.
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I just found your choice of words gross.



No one said it did.



We're real close on that one.



Fewer and fewer things everyday. And what we keep finding over and over is that many things attributed to God happened all on their own and didn't need a God to happen at all.



Few people deny such. What many people deny is that there has been verifiable evidence that there ever was or is a creator and therefore no reason to ASSUME there is one. On the flip side of your coin people that assume a creator are delusional as they have nothing to base it on but a lack of understanding of nature.
So what creates life?
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It would be like Colonel Sanders giving military advice.
Any chance he spent more time in the Army than you? He was a Veteran you know. With his particular military experience, he could have given a lot of helpful advice around here.

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Any chance he spent more time in the Army than you? He was a Veteran you know. With his particular military experience, he could have given a lot of helpful advice around here.
He spent four months enlisted in the U.S. Army as a mule handler in Cuba.
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He spent four months in the U.S. Army as a mule handler in Cuba.
So we know he could offer advice on mule handling. Still not sure if he was in the military longer than muscogee though. He was named a Colonel by the KY governor. It's an honorary title.

Textbook rough start to success story though. Not a perfect ending, but it sure seems like he gave it a good run.

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So what creates life?
What "Creates" life? Nothing suggests that anything "Creates" it. What we're learning is that it happens on its own naturally. We're fairly close to proving it too.
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That's right, he never claimed PTSD at all. You just made a troll attempt at labeling him as PTSD with your dubious and unsolicited diagnosis. So, you are in fact a liar because above you clearly stated that he claimed it himself where now you admit that he never did.

This is your modis operandi both here and in PI. In much the same manner, you accused me (twice) for calling for the abolishment of religion through force of law when I have never made any such claim. In fact, after your first attempt at that slur, I provided you with multiple cites where I clearly stated unwavering support for the first ammendment and yet you went away for a month or two and came back with the same slur again as if it had not already been refuted.

Do you think people won't remember these stunts of yours? You are a liar and you have been shown to be so multiple times. You have zero credibility left on these forums.
I love how he completely ignored this. Another one of his tactics. Then he'll claim to have "Missed" it if you bring it back up.
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So what creates life?

Read up on abiogenisis. Just 'cause we can't fully explain it or replicate it (yet), doesn't mean it was magic.
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So we know he could offer advice on mule handling. Still not sure if he was in the military longer than muscogee though.
Kind of an irrelevant point since Muscogee never claimed to be in the military or that he was competent to give military advice. The point was that Colonel Sanders (not an actual colonel) giving military advice was roughly analogous to you (not an actual doctor) giving medical advice. But this sort of deflection is to be expected from you. Why don't you try challenging what was actually said for a change? If you think through it slowly, you actually have a valid (unusually so) counterpoint that can be made.

It is interesting how you resort to intellectual dishonesty even when the truth would serve your purposes better. I can only assume that it is because dishonesty is all you know.
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Kind of an irrelevant point since Muscogee never claimed to be in the military or that he was competent at giving military advice. The point was that Colonel Sanders (not an actual colonel) giving military advice was roughly analogous to you (not an actual doctor) giving medical advice. But this sort of deflection is to be expected from you. Why don't you try challenging what was actually said for a change?
Well, he was an actual colonel. Your knowledge is just limited to the point that you didn't know that there is more than one kind. If muscogee had never been in the military, Col Sanders probably knew at least one good tip he learned in the military that was probably useful, or at least interesting that muscogee didn't know. For those that know what PA's do and how they do it, y'all look petty. I don't need you to understand. It's honestly more fun watching you guys pretend to remain willfully ignorant.

One thing is also certain, dismissing a guy like Col Sanders, who came up with a product and novel methods, overcame adversity, developed a marketing strategy that has led to an international franchise operation lacks a certain insight. I wouldn't be so quick to ridicule a guy like that. His philanthropic efforts still provide scholarships. I doubt any of us in this thread will overshadow what he's done. Entrepreneurs are good people too.

Moral of the story, don't be too quick to judge.
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Read up on abiogenisis. Just 'cause we can't fully explain it or replicate it (yet), doesn't mean it was magic.
If we can do it, couldn't someone else have done it on earth, in the beginning, on purpose? Still no magic needed.
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Well, he was an actual colonel. Your knowledge is just limited to the point that you didn't know that there is more than one kind.
Please, everyone here knows what a Kentucky Colonel is and that being one does not even remotely qualify one to comment on military matters. That was what he was driving at the whole time.

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See? Isn't it refreshing to debate on honest terms? I realize it is unfamiliar ground for you, but keep practicing and one day you might actually be able to participate in an adult discussion.

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Aww, and you were doing so well. Nobody said anything even remotely approaching the above. The comment was specifically in regards to "military advice" and nothing more. Back to evasion and misdirection I see.
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Please, everyone here knows what a Kentucky Colonel is and that being one does not even remotely qualify one to comment on military matters. That was what he was driving at the whole time.



See? Isn't it refreshing to debate on honest terms? I realize it is unfamiliar ground for you, but keep prarcticing and one day you might actually be able to participate in an adult discussion.



Aww, and you were doing so well. Nobody said anything even remotely approaching the above. The comment was specifically in regards to "military advice" and nothing more. Back to evasion and misdirection I see.
The problem is that a conclusion was jumped too. He's a Veteran. I can't remember ever meeting a Veteran that didn't learn something worth passing on to those that never served. A KY Colonel is still a Colonel. Prior ignorance of that is no excuse.
Col Sanders would have been interesting to chat with. Oh well, much easier to dismiss him than take a chance to learn a little about the guy.

Gek, we both know you can't go too long without ad Homs. When you start debating without them, then you can pretend to be the adult. Not yet.

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Read up on abiogenisis. Just 'cause we can't fully explain it or replicate it (yet), doesn't mean it was magic.
Who said it was magic?

You made my point exactly. Science doesn't have all the answers
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